# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 133
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2703 "2021-09-28T20:27:13Z")
The thing is, I’m sure they never realized a secure vaccine proof would be needed. After all, I don’t have secure proof of any of the many other vaccines I have had. They assumed, I’m sure, that the vast majority of eligible people would get the shot, so secure proof would not be necessary. A bad assumption, as it turned out. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2704 "2021-09-28T20:48:43Z")
From the beginning there was talk of vaccine passports. The US decided not to do that. But the implication of that is that there’s no way to require proof of vaccination in real time. You can get it for something like employment, because the employer can check employees against the state vaccine registries. But you can’t really do it for sporting events and such. You can require it, but you have to go on the honor system for practical purposes. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2705 "2021-09-28T21:11:05Z")
There is the Clear Health Pass, which several arenas and stadiums are starting to use: > **[Business and Partnerships](https://www.clearme.com/business-and-partnerships)** > > CLEAR's platform powers a full suite of products that drive operational efficiencies for your business while simultaneously providing frictionless experiences for your consumers. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2706 "2021-09-28T22:01:14Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Public places like restaurants will have to have policies that literally anything is acceptable instead of requiring the CDC vax card. Vax paperwork given out by vax sites should be CDC cards, not random printouts on A4 paper. I forget how to do this the special way that makes the links for you, but I quoted this post and responded to it over in the fake vaccination cards thread. > [@Fake vaccination cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fake-vaccination-cards/937970/69): > > I think the discussion of vaccination cards vs paper records over in breaking news is interesting. I don’t want to hijack that thread though. Maybe we can continue it here? I think the issue of some people having gotten no card, but only a printout makes things more complicated. It also means relying on laws against faking federal agency logos won’t work for prosecuting people who get caught. I also would like to avoid burdening people who did get vaccinated but didn’t get cards. My prefe… ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2707 "2021-09-28T22:13:24Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > No, the states should be offering a verifiable vaccine passport. Simplest would be a QR code that resolves to a site on the state’s secure website that gives the name of the person and their vax status. That combined with existing forms of ID to prove your name would be cheap and very hard to fake. You could carry the QR code on a piece of paper, or on your phone, Which is what New York State does; also some others, I believe. I’m carrying the printout from the website, along with a copy of my card. Haven’t been anywhere I needed to show them (I haven’t been anywhere much), but I’ve got them if I need them. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2708 "2021-09-29T04:40:38Z")
233,558,660 total cases 4,778,872 dead 210,386,345 recovered In the US: 44,054,825 total cases 711,222 dead 33,520,958 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 233,089,237 total cases > 4,769,706 dead > 209,807,929 recovered > > In the US: > > 43,942,335 total cases > 709,119 dead > 33,394,833 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2709 "2021-09-29T21:25:19Z")
This isn’t really news but it fits in well here. We’re in France at the moment and every - EVERY - bar, cafe and restaurant that we have been in required the pass sanitaire - vaccine passport. IIRC the vaccination rate in this vaccine hesitant county is just shy of 84%. Coercion works. j ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2710 "2021-09-29T21:55:17Z")
84% of total, or of those over 12? Because if that’s of total, that’s amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2711 "2021-09-29T22:08:45Z")
Yep, 83.9% over the age of twelve. Chapeau, as they say round here. j ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2712 "2021-09-29T22:46:14Z")
Oops - misinterpreted your question there. But impressive anyway, huh? j ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2713 "2021-09-29T23:01:13Z")
absolutely! ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2714 "2021-09-29T23:06:15Z")
Today my company sent out an email saying that you need to be fully vaccinated, have some type of exception, or lose your job. Previously they were encouraging people to get vaccinated but nothing about losing your job. I do not work for a government agency, school or hospital so I was a bit surprised by the announcement especially as they said it does not matter if you are not going into the office, which is not set to re open until at the earliest January, or not. you have to get vaccinated. The decision by the US Government was mentioned several times in the announcement. I do not know how many other companies are going to use it as cover for what they already want to do, but if so, then the intent of the mandate by the Biden administration is working. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2715 "2021-09-29T23:26:06Z")
Does you company have more than 100 employees? I believe the mandate says companies with at least 100 employees must vaccinate or test. I could be very wrong, but I think the number of employees allows OSHA to get involved. Again, I could be very wrong, so please don’t take my word for this. Check for yourself if you think its important to know. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2716 "2021-09-30T01:58:54Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > I wonder if the people who approved that verification scheme bothered to think about **what they would do if the state registry contained an error**. On the advice of @Johnny_L.A, I checked my state record online, saw that they were missing my first jab, and called the pharmacy where I got my shots to have them call it in to the state (the pharmacist said that the state had missed a lot of the early shots). All is now mostly corrected - it only took a few days to update. I’d advise everyone to check their own records now, before they’re needed. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2717 "2021-09-30T02:10:56Z")
As of Sept 18, Canada’s coverage for over 12 years of age was: 85.82 received at least one dose 79.63% fully vaccinated. If we can get to over 85% fully vaccinated by late October, I think we’ll be good. Of course, Alberta and Saskatchewan are lagging. And are having a crisis at the moment in hospitalizations and ICU usage. Not a coincidence. > **[COVID-19 vaccination coverage in Canada - Canada.ca](https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/)** > > COVID-19 vaccination coverage across Canada by demographics and key populations. Updated every Friday at 12:00 PM Eastern Time. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2718 "2021-09-30T02:35:55Z")
I’m glad you got it sorted. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2719 "2021-09-30T04:18:27Z")
234,072,335 total cases 4,788,397 dead 210,890,960 recovered In the US: 44,199,496 total cases 713,953 dead 33,634,702 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 233,558,660 total cases > 4,778,872 dead > 210,386,345 recovered > > In the US: > > 44,054,825 total cases > 711,222 dead > 33,520,958 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2720 "2021-09-30T13:25:52Z")
The injunction against Denver mayor Han **cock** ’s order that all city & county employees and workers in high-risk fields including teachers (who are not city/county OR private employees but still fall under the order) has failed. Starting tomorrow if you are not vaccinated or have a waiver you will face disciplinary action up to and including firing. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2721 "2021-09-30T15:00:01Z")
**Alaska** is again alone among the states for setting a new seven-day-average daily new case record of 1428 as of yesterday (individual non-averaged daily highs have exceeded 4000 more than once), way above the previous high of 714 reported back in December 2020. And it’s still going up rapidly. No other state is even close to record highs, although several are increasing (with Montana proportionally about the next highest). But the states reporting new record highs last month seem to be simmering down, even Florida. The US as a whole seems to be simmering down, too, although we still have 4-5 times the average new daily caseload of our nearest competitors. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2722 "2021-09-30T15:03:35Z")
[COVID-19 deaths much higher in Washington’s Republican counties, analysis shows | KNKX Public Radio](https://www.knkx.org/2021-09-30/covid-19-deaths-much-higher-in-washingtons-republican-counties-analysis-shows) > The death toll from the “fifth wave” of COVID-19 is hitting Republican counties in Washington much harder than Democratic ones, according to a new analysis. > > As of this week, the death rate for people with COVID-19 was 44.4 per 100,000 in counties that voted over 60 percent Republican in statewide races in 2020. By contrast, counties that went for Democratic statewide candidates by 60 percent or more have a death rate of just 6.8 per 100,000. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=132) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=134)