# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2803 "2021-10-08T16:20:16Z")

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Delta moves faster and I think we’re seeing multiple waves, so the pattern is a bit different, but I’m pretty sure we’re seeing the Sturgis effect as part of the explanation.

On the map below, drag the slider where it says “Last 60 days” all the way to the left, which is near the start of the Sturgis rally. You’ll notice that South Dakota has one of the lowest daily case counts in the country. Then start dragging it slowly to the right and watch what happens to South Dakota, but more importantly, to the states around it and even some of their neighbors as you work your way forward through the timeline.

> **[Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) from Mayo Clinic - Mayo Clinic](https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19)**
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> Find out about COVID-19, vaccines, long-term effects, variants and research.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2804 "2021-10-08T16:48:08Z")

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I’m cross-posting this question from the 'Raffe.

Question: if a COVID patient lives in one state, but dies in a hospital in another state, which state will count as having this death? I was thinking about how Idahoan COVID patients are having to go to Washington and Oregon hospitals because their own hospitals in Idaho are overflowing. If they then die in Seattle or Portland, will it up the count in those states or their own home state?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2805 "2021-10-08T16:54:41Z")

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On [the technical notes page for Provisional Death Counts](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm), the CDC says:

> Death data, once received and processed by National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), are tabulated by the state or jurisdiction in which the death occurred. Death counts are not tabulated by the decedent’s state of residence.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2806 "2021-10-08T17:10:46Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> The man who died because he needed cardiothoracic surgery was murdered by anti-vaxers just the same as if one of them had shot him.

That’s a strong way to put it, and 100% accurate.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2807 "2021-10-09T04:47:58Z")

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238,004,527 total cases  
4,857,470 dead  
215,148,971 recovered

In the US:

45,135,620 total cases  
732,477 dead  
34,577,516 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 237,550,924 total cases  
> 4,849,411 dead  
> 214,648,398 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 45,021,267 total cases  
> 730,206 dead  
> 34,479,131 recovered

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**Author:** ![pmwgreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pmwgreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pmwgreen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2808 "2021-10-09T18:58:39Z")

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That question is why I prefer the Washington Post map which shows stats at a county level. Lots of states have low numbers at one end and high numbers at the other. The same boundary question exists for states, but the detail is better.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2809 "2021-10-10T05:34:30Z")

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238,369,151 total cases  
4,863,092 dead  
215,502,869 recovered

In the US:

45,179,209 total cases  
733,058 dead  
34,630,654 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 238,004,527 total cases  
> 4,857,470 dead  
> 215,148,971 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 45,135,620 total cases  
> 732,477 dead  
> 34,577,516 recovered

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2810 "2021-10-10T20:35:53Z")

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Paper claiming heart inflammation for 1 in 1000 vaccinated people withdrawn due to fatal flaws.

> [@](#):
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> “In order to avoid misleading either colleagues or the general public and press, we the authors unanimously wish to withdraw this paper on the grounds of incorrect incidence data,” they added.

[https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-preprint-myocarditiswithdrawn/fact-check-pre-print-study-that-claimed-1-in-1000-risk-of-myocarditis-following-covid-19-vaccine-was-withdrawn-due-to-miscalculation-idUSL1N2QX1WS](https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-preprint-myocarditiswithdrawn/fact-check-pre-print-study-that-claimed-1-in-1000-risk-of-myocarditis-following-covid-19-vaccine-was-withdrawn-due-to-miscalculation-idUSL1N2QX1WS)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2811 "2021-10-10T21:08:51Z")

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New cases in Hawaii are on a downtrend, and here on the island of Oahu bars and restaurants have just gotten the green light to serve alcohol until midnight instead of having to stop at 10pm like before.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2812 "2021-10-10T21:35:10Z")

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Good news, everyone! \<hic!\>

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2813 "2021-10-10T22:51:31Z")

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My stepsister’s kid had myocarditis that was associated with his vaccination, requiring hospitalization.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2814 "2021-10-11T04:37:16Z")

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How is he? I hope he recovered.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2815 "2021-10-11T06:29:32Z")

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238,662,406 total cases  
4,867,525 dead  
215,859,212 recovered

In the US:

45,204,373 total cases  
733,575 dead  
34,664,963 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
>
> 238,369,151 total cases  
> 4,863,092 dead  
> 215,502,869 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 45,179,209 total cases  
> 733,058 dead  
> 34,630,654 recovered

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2816 "2021-10-11T11:49:21Z")

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Thanks. He seems to be okay.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2817 "2021-10-11T14:02:24Z")

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Over the weekend we had new record (7-day average) daily highs in reported cases in

**Vermont** (238)

**Maine** (696)

Both much lower than most other states highs, but a disturbing trend.

There are cases on the upswing threatening new highs in Montana and Idaho. They’re rising in other states, too, but nowhere near record levels yet.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2818 "2021-10-11T16:38:27Z")

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Hawaii is almost to its goal of 70% of the population fully vaccinated with the figure standing at 69.3% as of yesterday. And while 77.5% of the population has received at least one shot, they said on the TV news that we are the first state to reach 90% of the _eligible_ population having one shot.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2819 "2021-10-11T17:08:48Z")

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Way to go, Hawaii!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2820 "2021-10-11T17:14:13Z")

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Huh, this puts Puerto Rico, Massachusetts, and Vermont ahead of Hawaii for % of population with at least one dose. Maybe they have fewer kids, so Hawaii has a higher % of those eligible:

> **[How are the COVID-19 vaccine and booster campaigns going in your state?](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state)**
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> The U.S. is striving to vaccinate as many people as possible against COVID-19 — and keep them up-to-date with boosters. But some states are lagging behind. See how yours is faring.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2821 "2021-10-11T20:28:01Z")

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A parent in Wisconsin is suing her son’s school district after they eliminated mask requirements and covid mitigation measures, and the son tested positive.

> **[Parent sues school district after child contracts COVID-19](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-wisconsin-school-boards-lawsuits-3159dca115897113ee0bc94060b708f6)**
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> WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) — A parent has sued a southeastern Wisconsin school district after her son contracted COVID-19 from a classmate.  
> The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that Shannon Jensen filed the lawsuit in federal court against the...

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2822 "2021-10-11T23:24:06Z")

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Good. If they’re afraid of being sued for having mask mandates (and some of them may be), make it clear to them that they can be sued for not having them just as well (and on better grounds) as for having them.

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