# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 139
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2823 "2021-10-12T04:45:50Z")
239,037,231 total cases 4,872,802 dead 216,298,685 recovered In the US: 45,313,353 total cases 734,611 dead 34,797,165 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 238,662,406 total cases > 4,867,525 dead > 215,859,212 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,204,373 total cases > 733,575 dead > 34,664,963 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2824 "2021-10-12T06:43:44Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Huh, this puts Puerto Rico, Massachusetts, and Vermont ahead of Hawaii for % of population with at least one dose. Maybe they have fewer kids, so Hawaii has a higher % of those eligible: Possibly. I’ve not heard the claim repeated though. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2825 "2021-10-13T03:58:31Z")
239,481,625 total cases 4,881,590 dead 216,844,181 recovered In the US: 45,431,167 total cases 737,584 dead 34,997,968 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 239,037,231 total cases > 4,872,802 dead > 216,298,685 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,313,353 total cases > 734,611 dead > 34,797,165 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2826 "2021-10-14T05:41:40Z")
239,944,477 total cases 4,889,440 dead 217,298,230 recovered In the US: 45,547,920 total cases 739,778 dead 35,107,452 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 239,481,625 total cases > 4,881,590 dead > 216,844,181 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,431,167 total cases > 737,584 dead > 34,997,968 recovered Tomorrow there will have been over 240,000,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases worldwide. Also tomorrow, the US will have more than 740,000 dead from COVID-19. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2827 "2021-10-14T14:38:32Z")
> **[Newly Discovered Bat Viruses Give Hints to Covid’s Origins (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/science/bat-coronaviruses-lab-leak.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSFUaBybOVtkqqBaLwvLG3Pk3gWX5KiGLSCxf1OkORoyJ8QLJaKNgIdsv2jDRDPlwDIgSft0ghOlOIx4qDACyvpqPnJlCfH858NLqAzpzgM-QB_Vlr2a1K2Dkc-06yeK15U7bbTbhC63ewmRhcFg-2eZtdVGv3nUCwr6UUbImn4kjgopyQ8xyVjwCZyGVv_D3CxgYONiObBDU6wheSPgOEHiI3obas-RcBV0UXVHWT3p_4XI_6cdcMb4UOaX-Jh0icKnukHCuPTnHbrvBgf6BLRIKNqQ&smid=url-share)** > > Coronaviruses discovered in Laotian bats are surprisingly adept at infecting human cells, showing that such deadly features can indeed evolve outside of a lab. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2828 "2021-10-14T19:27:57Z")
Just posted: > **[Experts recommend that FDA should authorize Moderna COVID vaccine booster](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/14/1046079675/experts-recommend-that-fda-should-authorize-moderna-covid-vaccine-booster)** > > The recommendation applies to people 65 years and older, those 18 to 64 who are at high risk of severe COVID and those whose work or institutional exposure puts them at high COVID risk. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2829 "2021-10-14T19:52:26Z")
Same guidelines as for Pfizer, and they are scheduled to meet tomorrow to discuss J&J, for those who prefer not to click links. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2830 "2021-10-14T20:31:18Z")
Good to know, thank you. I’m going to town tomorrow, I’ll get my booster then. No need to worry about an appointment, the only time I’ve seen anyone else getting shots there was when I got my first jab and then it was a “crowd” of 6. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2831 "2021-10-14T23:27:35Z")
I don’t think you can actually get it until the CDC meets on the 21st. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2832 "2021-10-14T23:31:38Z")
I think that’s the official word, but the person who gave me my flu and shingles shot was willing to give me another shot of Moderna if I wanted it. It would have been a full dose, but I don’t think that would have been an issue. I’m not really sure why I waited, but I did and now I want it because I’m going to be going to a needlework convention in Vegas and 90% of the convention goers will be my age or older. I’m pretty sure most of them will be vaccinated but I really don’t want to risk getting anyone sick. ETA I waited for my third Moderna shot because it hadn’t been 6 months yet and I’ve read that the proper amount of time between vaccinations and boosters is pretty important no matter what the shots are for. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2833 "2021-10-15T00:18:10Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I’ve read that the proper amount of time between vaccinations and boosters is pretty important no matter what the shots are for. You might also want to check with the pharmacist about timing if your COVID illness was recent. They might advise waiting a certain number of months from a confirmed Covid infection. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2834 "2021-10-15T00:49:55Z")
THANK YOU! I didn’t think about that and will report back tomorrow. I do know that hubs got vaccinated while still testing positive, but that might have been because they didn’t want to risk him not coming back and its pretty obvious that I will. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2835 "2021-10-15T01:07:40Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > its pretty obvious that I will. True dat! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2836 "2021-10-15T04:17:53Z")
240,383,902 total cases 4,897,302 dead 217,699,235 recovered In the US: 45,639,012 total cases 741,893 dead 35,205,258 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 239,944,477 total cases > 4,889,440 dead > 217,298,230 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,547,920 total cases > 739,778 dead > 35,107,452 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2837 "2021-10-16T00:43:18Z")
A couple of stories: > **[September was the worst month for Covid in kids](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/data-shows-more-children-are-getting-sick-dying-covid-n1281616)** > > While young children made up a very small portion of Covid deaths, September had the most new cases and deaths for kids. And… > **[New CDC data shows the risk of dying from Covid-19 is 11 times higher for...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/health/cdc-covid-risk-higher-unvaccinated/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%2Brss%2Fcnn_latest%2B%28RSS%3A%2BCNN%2B-%2BMost%2BRecent%29)** > > Throughout August, the risk of dying from Covid-19 was 11 times higher for unvaccinated adults than for fully vaccinated adults in the United States, according to new data published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2838 "2021-10-16T03:27:08Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I don’t think you can actually get it until the CDC meets on the 21st. As I think I understood it: The headlines scream something along the lines of “Moderna boosters approved!!!1!!1!” but that’s not really the final word yet. This was the 19-person expert FDA advisory committee that unanimously recommended approving the Moderna boosters (with the J&J recommendation to come shortly). But there are still several steps to go: The powers-that-be at FDA must still approve (and they usually go along with the recommendation of the advisory committee), and then the CDC must approve. It’s expected that those will be pro-forma approvals, but they still need to happen. Apparently this will come in the next few days, perhaps next week. ETA: I got my Moderna jabs on March 1 and 29, so it’s been six+ months for me. If they recommend boosters after 6 months, I’ll be waiting in line! If they recommend after 8 months, that will be mid-December for me. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2839 "2021-10-16T04:18:22Z")
240,836,978 total cases 4,904,809 dead 218,110,176 recovered In the US: 45,738,585 total cases 743,880 dead 35,304,097 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 240,383,902 total cases > 4,897,302 dead > 217,699,235 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,639,012 total cases > 741,893 dead > 35,205,258 recovered ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2840 "2021-10-16T16:39:50Z")
The J&J shot is finally authorized as to getting a booster shot. I have no idea as to where to go to get a second one but the article is kinda suggesting to just get whatever booster is available, I’ll be asking my Primary Doc what she thinks: "The FDA isn’t bound by the recommendation as it makes a final decision — and adding to the debate’s complexity, new research also suggests that J&J recipients might have a stronger immune response if their booster dose is from a competing brand. Preliminary results from an ongoing study of different ways to “mix and match” different shots showed that a booster of any sort revved up people’s levels of virus-fighting antibodies — at least for a few weeks. And the most dramatic jump came from giving a Pfizer or Moderna shot after the single-dose J&J vaccination." > **[FDA panel endorses booster shot for J&J COVID-19 vaccine](https://news.yahoo.com/fda-panel-takes-tough-questions-134652083.html)** > > U.S. health advisers endorsed a booster of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine Friday, citing concern that Americans who got the single-dose shot aren’t as protected as those given two-dose brands. J&J told the Food and Drug Administration... ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2841 "2021-10-16T18:14:15Z")
My results were an impressive display of thoughtlessness. It was windy and blustery yesterday, so I wore my favorite turtleneck sweater to go to town. Those shot givers don’t get paid enough to see me without a shirt, so I didn’t even try. I’ll get it Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2842 "2021-10-16T21:31:23Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > ETA: I got my Moderna jabs on March 1 and 29, so it’s been six+ months for me. If they recommend boosters after 6 months, I’ll be waiting in line! If they recommend after 8 months, that will be mid-December for me. I got the second jab in mid-May so a six month booster would be mid-November…right before the holidays when it will be most useful as family gatherings happen. If it is eight months then I will get it mid-January, after the holiday season and it is of relatively minor value (I’ll still get it). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=138) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=140)