# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2843 "2021-10-17T02:06:24Z")
Someone should tell this to the Chicago cops: > **[Five times as many police officers have died from Covid-19 as from gunfire...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/16/us/police-vaccine-covid-deaths/index.html)** > > The coronavirus has become the leading cause of death for officers despite law enforcement being among the first groups eligible to receive the vaccine at the end of 2020. That's 476 Covid-19 related deaths since the start of the pandemic, compared... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2844 "2021-10-17T02:54:53Z")
For these types, covid is the secondary cause of death. The primary cause is stoopidity. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2845 "2021-10-17T03:00:11Z")
Yeah. It was the highest cause of death in 2020. I wasn’t surprised, seeing a cop going around the hospital maskless, while everyone else was required to wear one. If anything, I’m surprised the numbers are as low as they are. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2846 "2021-10-17T03:04:34Z")
The thing is I bet they wear a bulletproof vest but the face-mask is statistically more likely to save them. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2847 "2021-10-17T03:12:35Z")
I’ve posted this several times already, but here it is again: “Dumbness is a DIZEEEEZE! You can DIE from dumbness!” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2848 "2021-10-17T03:43:01Z")
The Honolulu Zoo’s only male lion has died from Covid. A female lion has also tested positive but is expected to recover. [Story here.](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/10/16/lion-honolulu-zoo-dies-after-contracting-covid-case-prompting-broader-concern-facility/) In good news, [Hawaii has reached 70% of the total population fully vaccinated.](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/10/16/with-state-70-vaccination-status-140-new-covid-infections-added-4-new-deaths/) The governor had said all restrictions would end once that happened, but that was awhile ago, and that might not prove feasible just yet. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2849 "2021-10-17T04:07:34Z")
241,170,384 total cases 4,910,066 dead 218,412,697 recovered In the US: 45,774,175 total cases 744,385 dead 35,352,343 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 240,836,978 total cases > 4,904,809 dead > 218,110,176 recovered > > In the US: > > 45,738,585 total cases > 743,880 dead > 35,304,097 recovered ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2850 "2021-10-17T04:33:38Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I don’t think you can actually get it until the CDC meets on the 21st. On this note, I just came from the “3rd Pfizer Jab” thread where I was surprised to see that folks were getting Moderna booster shots back in August (without any lying about their data). I wonder the how and the why of that. Why would CVS do that? Maybe I just missed something? > [@The third jab of Pfizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jab-of-pfizer/951471/137): > > My wife (age 60), mother-in-law (85), and I (65) all got Moderna boosters back in August, 5 1/2 months after our last regular shots (Moderna for me and my wife, Pfizer for my MIL). We just went on the CVS website, gave our details (no lying) and were given appointments without any questions. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2851 "2021-10-17T04:39:16Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I think that’s the official word, but the person who gave me my flu and shingles shot was willing to give me another shot of Moderna if I wanted it. It would have been a full dose, but I don’t think that would have been an issue. What do you mean by “It would have been a full dose”? Are they giving some people less than a full dose? I read various things about maybe a full dose (Moderna booster) wouldn’t be needed but I did not know if that was the established policy. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2852 "2021-10-17T06:05:17Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > What do you mean by “It would have been a full dose”? Are they giving some people less than a full dose? I read various things about maybe a full dose (Moderna booster) wouldn’t be needed but I did not know if that was the established policy. Moderna’s application for giving a second booster for the general population was at half dose of the first two shots. However, when they were first giving second doses for immuno-compromised people, it was at the full dose level. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2853 "2021-10-17T06:16:48Z")
What he said! Now that I’m done laughing at my lame joke, yes. Had I gotten a third shot when I got my flu shot, I would have gotten a full dose of Moderna. The vaccine rate here is dismal, I got a couple of 10% off anything in the store coupons that could be used for booze and cigs when I got my flu and shingles shots. It is not surprising at all that they were encouraging people to get boosters whenever they had an arm in their hands and would have given full doses because nothing has been finalized yet. Which I had in the same arm because I’m a side sleeper and didn’t want two sore arms. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2854 "2021-10-17T07:04:09Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Moderna’s application for giving a second booster for the general population was at half dose of the first two shots. However, when they were first giving second doses for immuno-compromised people, it was at the full dose level. OK, thanks. That makes sense. But do you mean “giving _third_ doses for immuno-compromised people” instead of second? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2855 "2021-10-17T09:44:08Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > But do you mean “giving _third_ doses for immuno-compromised people” instead of second? No I said “second booster”. The first jab is not a booster. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2856 "2021-10-17T14:20:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: Only 505 deaths in the U.S. yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2857 "2021-10-17T14:24:34Z")
Weekends tend to have low reporting, Mondays catch up and tend to be higher. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2858 "2021-10-17T17:31:14Z")
A Washington state physician’s assistant has had his license suspended after prescribing ivermectin to covid patients and trying to bully hospitals into providing ivermectin to their patients. He already had a citation on his record and a fine in California. > **[Ivermectin-Crazy Physician Assistant’s License Is Suspended](https://www.thedailybeast.com/physician-assistant-scott-millers-license-is-suspended-over-ivermectin-push)** > > Scott Miller allegedly tried to bully local hospital staff into giving his COVID patients the unproven drug. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2859 "2021-10-17T19:22:45Z")
At least they dies breathing freedumb air: > **[Kansas reports fourth child COVID death as school-aged children have highest...](https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/10/15/kansas-covid-child-death-fourth-reported-kdhe-school-age-coronavirus-case-rate/8472769002/)** > > A fourth Kansas child has died from COVID-19, according to the Kansas Department of Health and Environment. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2860 "2021-10-17T20:49:42Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > On this note, I just came from the “3rd Pfizer Jab” thread where I was surprised to see that folks were getting Moderna booster shots back in August (without any lying about their data). > > I wonder the how and the why of that. Why would CVS do that? Maybe I just missed something? I’m one of those, and AFAICT, getting the shot is a question of availability and demand. Our CVS here in Massachusetts had the vaccine on hand, we asked for a booster, and we got it. The same was true for lots of people at the school where my wife works. In Massachusetts, 68% of the population has been fully vaccinated, and 78% has gotten one shot. Since the vaccine has a limited shelf life, I imagine the thinking is that if there’s enough on hand, give it to anyone who asks, rather than let it expire. It could be that where the vaccine is in shorter supply, dispensaries are being more restrictive. But my advice to everyone is to try to sign up for a booster at your local pharmacy (without lying or dissembling, of course) and see if you can get it. The worst that can happen is that they say no. You won’t be arrested. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2861 "2021-10-17T21:59:35Z")
What an egotistical, dishonest, cowardly piece of garbage. And people are pouring $$ into his GoFundMe. Sickening. The article says he runs a private practice. I thought PA’s had to work under the auspices of a physician. If not, why are they Physician _Assistants_? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2862 "2021-10-18T03:43:19Z")
If one gets that 3rd (“booster”) Moderna jab before it’s officially approved, who pays for it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=141)