# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 144
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2924 "2021-10-31T18:42:57Z")
And here is more on adding vaccination info to your phone: > **[How to Put a Vaccine Card on Your Phone — WIRED](https://apple.news/ABFtpbTtpT5C7bH6zJHroTA)** > > Is that proof of vaccination card too big to fit in your pocket? Stick it on your phone instead. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2925 "2021-10-31T18:58:47Z")
I just took a photo of my vax card, and marked it as a “favorite” in my regular photo app. It’s not proof any more than the easy-to-fake paper card is, but so far, everyone who wanted my vaccine data has accepted it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2926 "2021-11-01T01:33:15Z")
My postings are going to be a little early for the next few days; I am not in my normal time zone. 247,447,446 total cases 5,014,779 dead 224,112,234 recovered In the US: 46,823,938 total cases 766,299 dead 36,715,313 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 247,137,539 total cases > 5,010,545 dead > 223,881,629 recovered > > In the US: > > 46,799,970 total cases > 766,117 dead > 36,692,264 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2927 "2021-11-02T01:14:34Z")
247,824,398 total cases 5,020,125 dead 224,523,024 recovered In the US: 46,904,413 total cases 767,215 dead 36,864,094 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 247,447,446 total cases > 5,014,779 dead > 224,112,234 recovered > > In the US: > > 46,823,938 total cases > 766,299 dead > 36,715,313 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2928 "2021-11-02T01:55:14Z")
[Shanghai Disneyland locks 33,000 inside park for mass testing after 1 case of COVID detected](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shanghai-disneyland-park-closed-covid-testing/) > Fireworks boomed as more than 33,000 visitors at Shanghai Disneyland waited — and waited — for [mandatory COVID-19 test results](https://www.cbsnews.com/feature/coronavirus/), surrounded by health workers dressed from head to toe in white protective suits. > > Shanghai Disneyland announced suddenly Sunday evening that it was no longer accepting any new visitors and was cooperating with an epidemiological investigation from another province. It then locked down the park as Shanghai city health care workers and police rushed to conduct a mass testing of the visitors already inside. _More at the link._ ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2929 "2021-11-03T02:55:27Z")
[https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1102-PediatricCOVID-19Vaccine.html](https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1102-PediatricCOVID-19Vaccine.html) edited to add from the link above (the summary does not show it): > Today, CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, M.D., M.P.H., endorsed the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ (ACIP) recommendation that children 5 to 11 years old be vaccinated against COVID-19 with the Pfizer-BioNTech pediatric vaccine. So now it is official, at least in the US, and kids from 5-11 can start getting shots tomorrow (2021-11-03) `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2930 "2021-11-03T02:58:15Z")
248,261,939 total cases 5,028,119 dead 224,949,993 recovered In the US: 46,999,026 total cases 768,797 dead 37,009,990 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 247,824,398 total cases > 5,020,125 dead > 224,523,024 recovered > > In the US: > > 46,904,413 total cases > 767,215 dead > 36,864,094 recovered ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2931 "2021-11-03T18:24:19Z")
Just plain nuts. > **[COVID-19 Victim Reportedly Dissected At Ticketed Event Without Family's Consent](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/man-dissected-without-family-consent_n_61820c45e4b055e47d73108f)** > > The man's body was used as the centerpiece of a public autopsy event in front of a paying audience. Even worse, the family wasn’t told. > Saunders’ widow reportedly learned about how her late husband’s body was used via a KING 5 report last week questioning the ethics of the event. A photojournalist from the news outlet observed Saunders’ name on a medical bracelet. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2932 "2021-11-03T18:51:17Z")
> [@icon](#): > > So now it is official, at least in the US, and kids from 5-11 can start getting shots tomorrow This might vary by state. It is states that ultimately regulate the practice of medicine, so some states have an additional hoop to authorize the vaccines. My state is one of several that will authorize it after the recommendation of a regional advisory board. But like the whole process up until now, it should be quick because they are already prepared, unless unexpected info were to come out. > [@running\_coach](#): > > Just plain nuts. I would say it was an educational use – I think educating the public about such things is good. It’s the for-profit nature of it, as well as failing to remove a hospital bracelet that made his identity apparent that are appalling. Both of those things ought to require specific consent from the donor and next-of-kin. And it should be clear in the general consent that “educational” use doesn’t just mean medical students. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2933 "2021-11-03T18:56:36Z")
> **[Indonesia first to greenlight Novavax COVID-19 vaccine](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-technology-science-business-health-7e75808d4675e0e7597f52aeed1b8d5a)** > > Biotechnology company Novavax says that Indonesia has given the world’s first emergency use authorization for its COVID-19 vaccine, which uses a different technology than current shots. Weirdly, they may not have filled for approval in the US, despite having been developed here? > Novavax said it has already filed for authorization of the vaccine in the United Kingdom, European Union, Canada, Australia, India and the Philippines. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2934 "2021-11-03T19:00:52Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Weirdly, they may not have filled for approval in the US, despite having been developed here? Perhaps they figure there is no market in the USA - demand for vaccines is not there. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2935 "2021-11-03T19:54:55Z")
I expect that we’ll all be getting boosters of novavax in a few years. It’s cheaper and more shelf-stable than the mRNA vaccines, and appears to be about as effective, with milder side effects. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2936 "2021-11-03T21:53:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Weirdly, they may not have filled for approval in the US, despite having been developed here? Story from back in August: [https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/novavax-again-delays-seeking-us-approval-covid-19-vaccine-2021-08-05/](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/novavax-again-delays-seeking-us-approval-covid-19-vaccine-2021-08-05/) > “It’s a matter of getting validation work done” to demonstrate consistency in the vaccine’s manufacturing process to the FDA, said Chief Executive Officer Stanley Erck during an interview with Reuters. > > He added that other countries’ regulators have been more aggressive in moving Novavax’s vaccine through the authorization process. j ETA - out of curiosity I checked the EMA. They started their (rolling) review in Feb. So yep, more aggressive. [https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-novavaxs-covid-19-vaccine-nvx-cov2373](https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-starts-rolling-review-novavaxs-covid-19-vaccine-nvx-cov2373) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2937 "2021-11-03T23:38:57Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > This might vary by state. It is states that ultimately regulate the practice of medicine, so some states have an additional hoop to authorize the vaccines. Good point. Here (New Hampshire) shots for ages 5-11 start Sunday. Or, at least, I haven’t seen any articles yet about locations offering it sooner than CVS’s plan to begin on Sunday. Other places, like Dartmouth-Hitchcock, won’t be offering it until over a week from now. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2938 "2021-11-04T01:44:43Z")
> On Wednesday, the Oregon Health Authority announced health care providers could begin administering the shot, after scientific advisors to a coalition of western states also signed off on the CDC decision. > **[COVID-19 vaccines for younger kids are coming to Oregon](https://www.opb.org/article/2021/11/03/covid-19-vaccines-for-younger-kids-are-coming-to-oregon/)** > > About 180,000 initial doses of the Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine for children should be available in Oregon by early next week, following a decision from CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization practices recommending the shot for kids ages 5 to... They say the vaccine shipments will be here beginning next week, so I guess the approval was quicker than distribution could keep up with. But it did take two additional steps – regional advisory group approval and state Health Authority approval. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2939 "2021-11-04T04:03:26Z")
248,812,788 total cases 5,036,921 dead 225,433,596 recovered In the US: 47,105,468 total cases 770,854 dead 37,116,604 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 248,261,939 total cases > 5,028,119 dead > 224,949,993 recovered > > In the US: > > 46,999,026 total cases > 768,797 dead > 37,009,990 recovered ---
**Author:** ![joe.russell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@joe.russell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joe.russell)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2940 "2021-11-05T00:34:54Z")
The New York Times: Widespread Coronavirus Infection Found in Iowa Deer, New Study Says. > **[Widespread Coronavirus Infection Found in Iowa Deer, New Study Says...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/02/science/deer-covid-infection.html)** > > The analysis by Penn State and Iowa researchers strongly indicates that deer are getting the virus from humans, worrying experts about a deep wild reservoir for the virus. Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2941 "2021-11-05T11:22:41Z")
Huge news from Pfizer, following on from Merck’s antiviral success, Pfizer have also stopped their clinical trial of a covid antiviral following exceptional efficacy results. [From the official release.](https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizers-novel-covid-19-oral-antiviral-treatment-candidate) > The scheduled interim analysis showed an 89% reduction in risk of COVID-19-related hospitalization or death from any cause compared to placebo in patients treated within three days of symptom onset (primary endpoint); 0.8% of patients who received PAXLOVID™ were hospitalized through Day 28 following randomization (3/389 hospitalized with no deaths), compared to 7.0% of patients who received placebo and were hospitalized or died (27/385 hospitalized with 7 subsequent deaths). The statistical significance of these results was high (p\<0.0001). Similar reductions in COVID-19-related hospitalization or death were observed in patients treated within five days of symptom onset; 1.0% of patients who received PAXLOVID™ were hospitalized through Day 28 following randomization (6/607 hospitalized, with no deaths), compared to 6.7% of patients who received a placebo (41/612 hospitalized with 10 subsequent deaths), with high statistical significance (p\<0.0001). In the overall study population through Day 28, no deaths were reported in patients who received PAXLOVID™ as compared to 10 (1.6%) deaths in patients who received placebo. For those not familiar with such things, this is a big, big win. Whether you get to people within 3 or 5 days of symptom onset, you seem to stop them dying. And these were people chosen to have specific risk factors for increased severity of disease and death. I personally think this, combined with the Merck treatment, is more of a game changer than the vaccines. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2942 "2021-11-05T11:27:57Z")
I’m also struck by the similarity in protection offered by giving the drug within 3 days or 5 days. Though I cannot find any reference to it in the release, the lack of appreciable protective drop-off in that time period may well hint at efficacy as a treatment for those who miss that 5 day window and get admitted anyway. I have no doubt further trials of that nature will follow. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2943 "2021-11-05T12:11:31Z")
Has the efficacy of fluvoxamine been discussed? > **[COVID-19: Antidepressant reduces risk of hospitalization and death](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-antidepressant-cuts-risk-of-hospitalization-death-by-32#High-risk-of-severe-disease)** > > A clinical trial has found that fluvoxamine, an SSRI antidepressant, significantly reduces the risk of hospitalization and death in high-risk patients with COVID-19. A 32% reduction in death from a cheap, widely available medication is pretty damn good, too. (It’s an anti depressant that’s been on the market for years, and the cost of using it to treat covid is less than $10.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=143) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=145)