# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2984 "2021-11-13T11:09:14Z")

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And it just keeps going:

[https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/12/health/covid-cases-winter-surge/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/12/health/covid-cases-winter-surge/index.html)

I forget where it was on the SDMB someone responded to me wondering why the south seemed to have a lower infection rate (recently). The article linked above suggests one possibility:

> Mokdad said states such as Florida have a false sense of security.
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> “Florida has a large population of the elderly, who went and got vaccinated. And the young people simply got infected. So the virus ran out of people to infect,” he said.
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> But he said immunity on both groups is waning.
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> “There will be a lot of winter travel to Florida,” he said. “Infections will start all over again,” he predicted. “We are so interconnected.”

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2985 "2021-11-13T15:30:18Z")

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According to the New York Times tracker, 99% of Americans 65+ have received the first vax, so we can’t lay this one on Boomers.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2986 "2021-11-13T15:37:51Z")

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According to my state’s numbers, more than 100% of those aged 65-74 have received at least one dose of vaccine. My best guess is that people lied to get a booster before the FDA approved it for everyone over 65.

I’m sure the number of those over 65 who’ve been vaccinated is high, but i don’t really believe the published “first doses”.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2987 "2021-11-14T05:46:50Z")

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[A Vienna brothel is offering a free 30 minutes in exchange for getting vaccinated.](https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vienna-brothel-offers-customers-30-minutes-with-lady-of-their-choice-in-exchange-for-coronavirus-jab-12464616)

Gives a whole new meaning to “you’ll just feel a little prick.”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2988 "2021-11-14T06:17:25Z")

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253,699,236 total cases  
5,111,276 dead  
229,414,511 recovered

In the US:

47,891,997 total cases  
783,439 dead  
37,897,335 recovered

YesterdayTwo days ago’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 252,651,684 total cases  
> 5,095,673 dead  
> 228,575,348 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 47,693,516 total cases  
> 780,775 dead  
> 37,729,489 recovered

I apologize for the disruption in the regularity of my postings; I am in the middle of an enormous personal project right now.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2989 "2021-11-14T13:06:45Z")

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This is sad:

> **[Three snow leopards die of COVID-19 at Nebraska zoo](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-deaths-snow-leopards-nebraska-zoo/)**
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> The leopards had been expected to make a full recovery.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2990 "2021-11-14T16:03:07Z")

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This also is sad:

> **[Arizona reports 3,086 more COVID-19 cases and 2 more deaths](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-arizona-health-1e2f7fa5cb812cba0cdeeaab77306fd0)**
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> PHOENIX (AP) — Health officials in Arizona reported more than 3,000 additional confirmed COVID-19 cases Sunday as virus-related hospitalizations remained near peaks seen during the autumn surge.

> [@](#):
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> Health officials in Arizona reported more than 3,000 additional confirmed COVID-19 cases Sunday as virus-related hospitalizations remained near peaks seen during the autumn surge.
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> The 3,086 additional cases and two additional deaths reported by the Department of Health Services’ coronavirus dashboard raised the state’s pandemic totals to 1,214,419 cases and 21,653 known deaths.
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> On Saturday, Arizona health officials reported 3,985 new cases and 51 deaths.
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> COVID-19-related hospitalizations during the current surge initially peaked in early September before gradually rising again starting in late October.
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> The dashboard reported that 2,100 COVID-19 patients occupied hospital inpatient beds on Friday, surpassed only by the surge’s latest peak of 2,113 on Wednesday and the earlier peak of 2,103 on Sept. 11.
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> According to John Hopkins University data, the seven-day rolling average of daily new cases rose over the past two weeks, rising from 2,574.4 on Oct. 28 to 3,494.7 on Thursday.

Deaths are down, tho; that’s good.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2991 "2021-11-14T16:45:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I apologize for the disruption in the regularity of my postings; I am in the middle of an enormous personal project right now.

You don’t need to apologize for anything. It’s amazing that you’ve been keeping this up for so long.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2992 "2021-11-14T18:54:22Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> You don’t need to apologize for anything. It’s amazing that you’ve been keeping this up for so long.

So this.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2993 "2021-11-14T22:15:46Z")

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**Snowboarder\_Bo,** I appreciate whatever you’re up for. I look at your comparison numbers every time you post them.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2994 "2021-11-15T06:10:09Z")

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254,039,778 total cases  
5,115,362 dead  
229,712,517 recovered

In the US:

47,916,190 total cases  
783,565 dead  
37,918,301 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 253,699,236 total cases  
> 5,111,276 dead  
> 229,414,511 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 47,891,997 total cases  
> 783,439 dead  
> 37,897,335 recovered

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2995 "2021-11-15T14:06:47Z")

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Vermont hit a new record high of seven-day-averaged new reported cases on November 14 – 473, much more than twice the previous record.

The seven-day-averaged newly reported COVID cases in Pennsylvania is suddenly rising very sharply, and looks as if it will set a new record number of cases in a day or two. The non-averaged daily reported cases has already broken the previous record in that state.

The other states are either not rising, or else , if rising, are far below previous record highs.

This is all from the Johns Hopkins website.

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2996 "2021-11-15T15:44:53Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The seven-day-averaged newly reported COVID cases in Pennsylvania is suddenly rising very sharply, and looks as if it will set a new record number of cases in a day or two. The non-averaged daily reported cases has already broken the previous record in that state.

Pennsylvania was rising, but it looks like they just reported some backlogged numbers which caused a huge spike. In general, COVID reporting has gotten really sloppy across the country, which makes distinguishing trends at the state level kind of hard.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2997 "2021-11-15T15:45:36Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The seven-day-averaged newly reported COVID cases in Pennsylvania is suddenly rising very sharply, and looks as if it will set a new record number of cases in a day or two. The non-averaged daily reported cases has already broken the previous record in that state.

Does Johns Hopkins 7-day-average case data for Pennsylvania differ from what Worldometers has? From WM, they show that Pennsylania’s 7-day-average case count peaked at 10,629 on 12/16/2020 – and also that Pennsylvania is trending way up now, with the 7-day-average case count rising from around 3,900 on Halloween to over 4,900 yesterday.

Johns Hopkins, though, shows that Pennsylvania will reach a 7-day-average case count record any day now?

EDIT: Wanted to link to WM’s Pennsylvania graph.

> **[Pennsylvania COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/pennsylvania/)**
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> Pennsylvania COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2998 "2021-11-15T17:06:38Z")

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Ho…ho…uh oh…

> **[Even Santa is suffering supply chain problems. Visits with kids may not...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/11/13/santa-claus-not-coming-nationwide-shortage/6358902001/)**
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> If you were hoping to have your kids take a picture with Santa this year, you may have trouble doing so amid a Santa shortage.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/2999 "2021-11-15T17:11:18Z")

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I wonder if we should put a tiny mask on the elf on the shelf this year…

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3000 "2021-11-15T20:33:37Z")

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If I had kids, I’d do ‘Doll in the Hall’.

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/52/fe/a7/52fea742ef3be2bce27c3baa598521d9.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/52/fe/a7/52fea742ef3be2bce27c3baa598521d9.jpg)

I suppose you could put a mask on it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3001 "2021-11-15T22:17:45Z")

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“The NHL postponed three Ottawa Senators games on Monday amid a COVID-19 outbreak on the team, the first time any North American major professional sports league has been hit by rescheduling this fall because of the coronavirus.  
Games scheduled for Tuesday at New Jersey, at home Thursday against Nashville and at home Saturday against the New York Rangers were postponed.  
Ten Senators players are currently in the NHL’s COVID-19 protocol.”

> **[NHL postpones 3 games amid Ottawa Senators virus outbreak](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-nhl-sports-new-york-ottawa-senators-e72ef57b1f22d678038b1e43a336e51d)**
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> The NHL postponed three Ottawa Senators games on Monday amid a COVID-19 outbreak on the team, the first time any North American major professional sports league has been hit by rescheduling this fall because of the coronavirus.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3002 "2021-11-16T06:10:10Z")

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254,589,978 total cases  
5,122,004 dead  
230,190,379 recovered

In the US:

48,072,898 total cases  
784,779 dead  
38,050,509 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 254,039,778 total cases  
> 5,115,362 dead  
> 229,712,517 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 47,916,190 total cases  
> 783,565 dead  
> 37,918,301 recovered

It looks like both daily new cases and daily deaths are trending slightly upward now. This seems to be true worldwide and within the US.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3003 "2021-11-16T10:34:51Z")

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> [@psychonaut](#):
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> Yesterday there were some state and municipal elections here in Austria. The head of the far-right party, Herbert Kickl of the Freedom Party (FPÖ), was so desperate to court the antivax vote that, a couple days before the election, he called a press conference for the sole purpose of proclaiming that he himself had _not_ been vaccinated. As proof of this he exhibited the notarized(!) result of an coronavirus antibody test that he had taken at a public hospital.

…and today Kickl just announced that he’s got Covid-19 and will be quarantining at home for the next two weeks.

In other Austrian news, you may already have heard that yesterday Austria imposed a nationwide lockdown on the unvaccinated. As the first country in the world to do so, this event made headlines around the world. The government has announced that police will be conducting random checks to ensure compliance with the lockdown.

Predictably, the announcement led to a modest-sized public protest in front of the Federal Chancellery the day before the lockdown took effect. One protestor was interviewed for the national news and proudly proclaimed that she stopped reading newspapers months ago and that she now gets all her pandemic-related information from her own “trusted sources”. It will be interesting to see whether any of these protestors will try holding a demo again during the lockdown. If so, that might be a perfect opportunity for the police to show up conduct some “random” checks.

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