# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3064 "2021-11-23T19:18:39Z")

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Seven people who attended a convention of anti-vax doctors have come down with covid.

> **[Seven From Anti-Vax Doctors’ COVID Conference Fall Sick Within Days](https://www.thedailybeast.com/dr-bruce-boros-and-six-others-from-florida-covid-summit-fall-sick)**
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> That includes Bruce Boros, who claimed ivermectin was keeping him healthy and said he wanted to smack his own father for getting the vaccine.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3065 "2021-11-23T19:20:26Z")

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Major League Baseball all star pitcher Doug Jones has died from covid.

> **[Former Brewers closer Doug Jones has died at 64, reportedly from...](https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2021/11/22/former-brewers-closer-doug-jones-dies-64-reportedly-covid-19/8727756002/)**
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> Doug Jones, who pitched in the big leagues for 16 years, including a huge 1997 season with the Brewers, reportedly died of COVID-19.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3066 "2021-11-24T04:24:52Z")

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259,017,146 total cases  
5,183,461 dead  
234,355,445 recovered

In the US:

48,835,216 total cases  
796,319 dead  
38,709,704 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 257,832,881 total cases  
> 5,168,069 dead  
> 232,756,149 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 48,592,810 total cases  
> 793,651 dead  
> 38,463,041 recovered

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3067 "2021-11-24T08:42:09Z")

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Wait, 5000+ people died in the US over one day?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3068 "2021-11-24T11:10:39Z")

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[One interesting thought in the news at the moment](https://metro.co.uk/2021/11/24/europe-may-be-fighting-worse-covid-outbreak-because-it-shunned-astrazeneca-jab-15655396/?ito=flipboard) regarding why the UK infection/hospitalisation/death figures are not doing what some European figures are doing.

The AZ vaccine was used extensively in the UK early with a large dose-gap and being given to the older, more at-risk groups. Initially in Europe there was an over-stated risk from AZ and some countries shunned it or limited it to certain age-groups. (remember Macron’s comments about it being “quasi-effective” for over 65’s?)

The suggestion is that it actually prompts a much stronger and longer lasting, T-cell response than other vaccines and so provides better long-term protection for the older cohorts.

Data is yet to be released on this but it wouldn’t be a huge surprise if we do see precisely this sort of distinction between vaccine protections. Important to pin down those differences and verify them so that optimal vaccine schemes can be proposed and administered.

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**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3069 "2021-11-24T11:11:41Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Wait, 5000+ people died in the US over one day?

Granted, we are well into the fourth surge, and more and more people are “tired of covid” and taking fewer and fewer precautions…(I’ve seen masking in the stores running 75% to only 50%.)

However, could this be caused by some states not reporting their daily numbers, so when the aggregated numbers do come in, it causes sudden jumps?

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3070 "2021-11-24T12:53:02Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Wait, 5000+ people died in the US over one day?

One of us is misreading the numbers. I see just under 3000 in the US and 5000 for the world.

The 1 week average deaths in the US is currently just over 1100 per day, so as @Bonum_Legatum noted, 3000 in one day is probably just an artifact of uneven reporting.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3071 "2021-11-24T12:58:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> If I had kids, I’d do ‘Doll in the Hall’.

How about Grogu eating the elf?

[![](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/968/514/d0f.png) ](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/968/514/d0f.png)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3072 "2021-11-24T14:22:34Z")

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South Korea:

> **[South Korea sets pandemic high with 4,000 new virus cases](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-pandemics-seoul-south-korea-550cc8cdad4c1e5b0af5723d2148f58e)**
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> SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — New coronavirus infections in South Korea exceeded 4,000 in a day for the first time since the start of the pandemic as a delta-driven spread continues to rattle the country after it eased social distancing in recent weeks...

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3073 "2021-11-25T02:08:51Z")

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259,699,491 total cases  
5,191,762 dead  
234,831,231 recovered

In the US:

48,969,792 total cases  
798,242 dead  
38,789,049 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 259,017,146 total cases  
> 5,183,461 dead  
> 234,355,445 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 48,835,216 total cases  
> 796,319 dead  
> 38,709,704 recovered

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3074 "2021-11-25T12:12:45Z")

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Germany:

> **[Merkel: 'Sad day' as Germany marks 100,000 deaths from COVID](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-europe-germany-54b1aecc3cd04973bdb99e92cd36214f)**
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> BERLIN (AP) — German Chancellor Angela Merkel labelled Thursday “a very sad day” and backed calls for more restrictions, as her country became the latest to surpass 100,000 deaths from COVID-19 since the pandemic began.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3075 "2021-11-25T18:28:13Z")

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[No more indoor distancing rules in Hawaii from next Wednesday](https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/11/24/getting-rid-distancing-requirements-give-eateries-much-needed-relief-restaurants-say/), although masking will still be required along with proof of vaccination for restaurants.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3076 "2021-11-25T23:33:25Z")

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Here’s some news:

> **[South African scientists detect new virus variant amid spike](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-africa-public-health-2b15d77e29c2607d4686e059e3313391)**
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> JOHANNESBURG (AP) — A new coronavirus variant has been detected in South Africa that scientists say is a concern because of its high number of mutations and rapid spread among young people in Gauteng, the country's most populous province, Health...

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3077 "2021-11-26T00:34:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Here’s some news:  
> [South African scientists detect new virus variant amid spike | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-science-health-africa-public-health-2b15d77e29c2607d4686e059e3313391)

While it doesn’t really have more news, this BBC article gives a bit more context to what we know and don’t know:

> **[Omicron: How worried should we be?](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418127)**
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> Scientists are closely watching a new variant - but there are few clear answers.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3078 "2021-11-26T00:55:43Z")

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Well, damn! Is this the Delta disaster all over again??

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3079 "2021-11-26T02:43:16Z")

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Same song, different verse.

It’s exhausting.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3080 "2021-11-26T03:10:10Z")

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260,278,393 total cases  
5,198,879 dead  
235,244,309 recovered

In the US:

48,999,737 total cases  
798,551 dead  
38,799,986 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 259,699,491 total cases  
> 5,191,762 dead  
> 234,831,231 recovered
> 
> In the US:
> 
> 48,969,792 total cases  
> 798,242 dead  
> 38,789,049 recovered

It seems likely that by the new year the US will have well over 51,000,000 total cases and over 825,000 covid deaths.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3081 "2021-11-26T05:41:23Z")

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Fatigue has hit and I no longer care. Here in Yavapai County, we are at about 50% vaccinated. The closest hospital with a trauma facilities is no longer accepting trauma patients because they don’t have beds left so folks bleeding to death from a car accident have to be airlifted to other hospitals. I’m totally over this. I’m sick of trying to help people who don’t want to be helped, I’m checking out. It’s over, I don’t care, now it’s all about me and mine. Fuck all those un-vaccinated people who refused to believe in science until they got sick and scared and then clogged up the hospital and fucking murdered a good man who died while being loaded into a helicopter.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3082 "2021-11-26T05:52:10Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> Fuck all those un-vaccinated people who refused to believe in science until they got sick and scared and then clogged up the hospital

All hospitals should have large field hospital annexes with cheap-ass cots for anti-vaxxer covid patients, leaving regular, “normal”, existing wards for everyone else. And if vax-compliant patients are admitted and if annex patients have to be abandoned, well, too bad, so sad.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/3083 "2021-11-26T06:02:41Z")

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And those tents should be staffed by all of the anti-vaxxer so called doctors and nurses and janitors who won’t be bothered by the facts and can use all of the sheep dip they want while smiling their unmasked smiles.

Oh, god, I am soooo pissed off right now. All of my words are strong and loud and likely to get me a warning because they are so hateful.

I honestly never knew what hate really meant until trump and the pandemic.

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