# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/871 "2021-03-23T14:00:33Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Sputnik is the one that interests me, and we almost never get news about it. I wonder what age groups they are testing.

[Politico is tracking the news](https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker/) on all the vaccine programs, including Sputnik. The article was last updated four days ago. There might be better sources with more details, but the link is very convenient for one-stop shopping.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/872 "2021-03-23T15:11:22Z")

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Thanks!

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/873 "2021-03-23T19:03:45Z")

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News from the UK

> **[Covid: £5,000 fine for people going on holiday abroad](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56493002)**
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> It is due to come into force in England next week as some other lockdown restrictions are eased.

> **A £5,000 fine for anyone in England trying to travel abroad without good reason is due to come into force next week as part of new coronavirus laws.**
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> Health Secretary Matt Hancock said restrictions on travelling abroad for leisure were necessary to guard against the importation of large numbers of cases and new variants which might put the vaccine rollout at risk.

The current “good reason” list:

> Legally-permitted reasons for foreign travel currently include work, volunteering, education, medical needs, and to attend weddings or funerals.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/874 "2021-03-25T08:27:54Z")

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It’s been a while since I posted any Austrian news. Unfortunately, there’s almost nothing positive to report. Infection rates have been rising dramatically (currently around 3500 new cases per day), and this week Vienna hospitals announced that they no longer have any free intensive care beds. Last night the heads of the easternmost three federal states announced a significant tightening of the existing lockdown rules. In brief, this means:

- All non-essential shops and services are to close.
- The existing curfew (20:00 to 06:00) has been extended to 24 hours. No leaving the house except for essential work, shopping, and exercise.
- Outside one’s own home, FFP2 masks are to be worn in all indoor spaces where there is more than one person present. This includes workplaces.
- Except for those working from home, all workers must be tested once per week. Those commuting from outside the country must be tested twice per week.
- All school and university buildings will close. After an extended Easter break, education will resume only by distance learning, or exceptionally in person with regular testing.

Testing remains widely available, with free tests available at participating pharmacies and walk-in or drive-through mass testing centres throughout the country. So far about one million residents (out of around nine million total) have received their first vaccine. This vaccination rate puts Austria somewhere in the bottom third of EU countries.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/875 "2021-03-25T11:01:47Z")

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125,542,273 total cases  
2,758,757 dead  
101,361,969 recovered

In the US:

30,704,292 total cases  
558,422 dead  
23,132,879 recovered

Some things got in the way of my posting on the 23rd and last night I couldn’t connect to the Dope for some reason, so I’m a bit late with these numbers but here they are. No “yesterday’s numbers” tho; sorry, folks.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/876 "2021-03-25T11:21:38Z")

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Poland:

> **[Poland orders stricter pandemic measures for Easter period](https://apnews.com/article/europe-hungary-poland-coronavirus-pandemic-d696eb96c4d34ba3bcbcfc362e2f050d)**
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> WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland's government ordered stricter pandemic measures for the two-week period surrounding Easter, describing the new rules Thursday as an attempt to limit human contacts amid a deadly surge in the coronavirus pandemic.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/877 "2021-03-25T22:01:55Z")

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Kansas woman may have died from anaphylactic shock after receiving vaccine, although not yet confirmed cause of death

> **[Kansas & national health agencies investigating after obituary says woman...](https://www.ksnt.com/health/coronavirus/after-obituary-says-kansas-woman-died-from-moderna-vaccine-reaction-health-officials-respond/)**
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> TOPEKA, Kan. (KSNT) – After an obituary said a Kansas woman died from a reaction after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine, the Kansas Department of Health and Environment confirmed it is investig…

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/878 "2021-03-26T00:16:29Z")

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> [@slash2k](#):
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> Kansas woman may have died from anaphylactic shock after receiving vaccine

Awful if true, [but not really a shock](https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/90556). Unfortunately it’s a very, very rare, but nonetheless real risk with most any vaccine and it seems with these a little more so than some.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/879 "2021-03-26T00:23:25Z")

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Yeah, the weird part is not that she went into anaphylaxtic shock, which is a known risk. It’s that even though her symptoms began when she was still being observed, they weren’t able to save her. It’s sad, but it was bound to happen to someone.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/880 "2021-03-26T03:06:29Z")

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Yeah, some people were handwaving that complication when it was first emerging, as something that just required an epipen. But one of the initial cases in a healthcare worker in Alaska required hospital admission and an epinephrine drip, because the reaction kept returning as the ordinary epinephrine shots wore off. It was very serious.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/881 "2021-03-26T03:10:18Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Yeah, the weird part is not that she went into anaphylaxtic shock, which is a known risk. It’s that even though her symptoms began when she was still being observed, they weren’t able to save her. It’s sad, but it was bound to happen to someone.

The vaccination site was twenty-five miles (~30 minutes travel time) from the hospital, and given the county there may not have been an ambulance right close by. I would hope they had some EpiPens to hand, but that isn’t necessarily enough.

(Of course, it’s possible the vaccine wasn’t the cause of death either, or perhaps only contributory, with other undisclosed health problems.)

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/882 "2021-03-26T05:48:17Z")

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126,068,887 total cases  
2,767,376 dead  
101,735,717 recovered

In the US:

30,774,033 total cases  
559,744 dead  
23,196,209 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 125,542,273 total cases  
> 2,758,757 dead  
> 101,361,969 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 30,704,292 total cases  
> 558,422 dead  
> 23,132,879 recovered

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/883 "2021-03-26T14:22:06Z")

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My brother ended up in the ICU following an adverse reaction to a vaccine (don’t recall which) while he was in the military. It happens.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/884 "2021-03-26T16:10:48Z")

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The johns Hopkins Coronavirus site shows worldwide daily reported cases undoubtedly going up and approaching the previous high. In the US, the rate is going up rapidly and significantly in states like new York and Michigan, with a slew of others – Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, etc. starting the same trend.

Brazil’s daily new cases still exceeds the US’s, but we’re going up, too. as noted above, Poland has achieved new record highs (although the Johns Hopkins site doesn’t show the new highs as exceeding the earlier ones) , and France, India, Ukraine, Jordan, and Germany are all rising rapidly.

This, despite the vaccinations. I suppose it’s largely the variants taking hold, although I suspect the loosening of restrictions and people’s less-vigilant attitudes after over a year of quarantining have something to do with it, too

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/885 "2021-03-26T20:23:14Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The johns Hopkins Coronavirus site shows worldwide daily reported cases undoubtedly going up and approaching the previous high. In the US, the rate is going up rapidly and significantly in states like new York and Michigan, with a slew of others – Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, etc. starting the same trend.
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> …This, despite the vaccinations. I suppose it’s largely the variants taking hold, although I suspect the loosening of restrictions and people’s less-vigilant attitudes after over a year of quarantining have something to do with it, too

Yes, I’ve been a bit obsessively eyeballing the US trends hoping to find some effect from the vaccinations, and nothing at all is apparent. Cases are going sideways now rather than dropping, and deaths are still very high, higher than a lot of last summer’s numbers. I wonder at what point the vaccinations will bend the numbers, and in what way? Cases stay high while deaths drop because vulnerable populations are protected?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/886 "2021-03-27T04:11:09Z")

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126,702,766 total cases  
2,779,769 dead  
102,165,944 recovered

In the US:

30,853,032 total cases  
561,142 dead  
23,275,268 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 126,068,887 total cases  
> 2,767,376 dead  
> 101,735,717 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 30,774,033 total cases  
> 559,744 dead  
> 23,196,209 recovered

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/887 "2021-03-27T04:27:07Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Yes, I’ve been a bit obsessively eyeballing the US trends hoping to find some effect from the vaccinations, and nothing at all is apparent. Cases are going sideways now rather than dropping, and deaths are still very high, higher than a lot of last summer’s numbers. I wonder at what point the vaccinations will bend the numbers, and in what way? Cases stay high while deaths drop because vulnerable populations are protected?

What I wonder is: who is dying right now? Are there statistics about the number of vaccinated people dying from COVID? I haven’t read about any but surely there must be some?

It might seem a stupid question but again: who is dying? Are there patterns in the death stats right now that can tell us… something?

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Look at Israel’s numbers. They are winding down, but it takes a month for full immunity from vaccine.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/889 "2021-03-27T07:56:24Z")

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[CDC COVID Data Tracker](https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime)  
Seems to show dramatic drop since December, much lower now than last summer.

Those aren’t the same curves I’m seeing elsewhere - is there an explanation for the difference?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/890 "2021-03-27T12:35:55Z")

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Deaths lag so far behind. People say three weeks, but I feel like it’s even longer than that: maybe a spike in cases is younger people getting it, and then the spike in deaths is the second ripple of cases, the smaller number of more vulnerable people who get exposed via their healthier contacts? Then they take three weeks to die.

Case count and positivity rate tell us the trend.

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