# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/911 "2021-03-29T04:10:42Z")

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Just released, as if we didn’t know: (doctors stated hundreds of thousands of lives were lost unnecessarily due to Trump’s White House)

> **[Covid-19: Birx Lashes Trump’s Pandemic Response and Says Deaths Could Have...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/28/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-cases/cnn-birx-fauci-giroir-interviews-trump)**
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> In a series of interviews aired by CNN, Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Anthony Fauci, and other Trump veterans tell of their own pandemic battles. Variants and eased restrictions are pushing cases up around the United States.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/912 "2021-03-29T04:23:55Z")

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127,771,302 total cases  
2,796,139 dead  
102,964,582 recovered

In the US:

30,962,803 total cases  
562,526 dead  
23,410,884 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 127,294,035 total cases  
> 2,789,710 dead  
> 102,571,371 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 30,917,130 total cases  
> 562,012 dead  
> 23,348,504 recovered

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/913 "2021-03-29T14:36:02Z")

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IMHO Dr. Deborah’s hands aren’t exactly clean! 🤬

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/914 "2021-03-29T14:56:25Z")

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Nobody got to declare victory over the Spanish flu either but it’s still long gone.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/915 "2021-03-29T16:11:09Z")

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Not glamourous, but good news about Pfizer and Moderna. Just what I wanted to hear about variants and a symptomatic transmission.

> **[The Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines are very effective in real-world...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/world/pfizer-moderna-covid-vaccines-infection.html)**
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> Consistent with clinical trial data, a two-dose regimen prevented 90 percent of infections by two weeks after the second shot. One dose prevented 80 percent of infections by two weeks after vaccination.

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**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/916 "2021-03-29T16:16:36Z")

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My understanding is that the Spanish Flu is still with us. It just evolved to become less deadly, or we evolved to become more resistant.

It was seasonal with three bad cycles. I don’t think there was ever an explanation as to why there wasn’t a fourth or subsequent. We still know little about viruses.

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/917 "2021-03-29T16:19:17Z")

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> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> We still know little about viruses.

A good reason to not be very confident with statements like “casualties will never be zero”.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/918 "2021-03-29T16:55:29Z")

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Are we getting ready to see an uptick in cases like they are in Europe?

> **[Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html)**
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> Track Covid-19 in your area, and get the latest state and county data on cases, deaths, hospitalizations, tests and vaccinations.

> At least 487 new coronavirus deaths and 45,552 new cases were reported in the United States on March 28. Over the past week, there has been an average of 63,199 cases per day, an increase of 15 percent from the average two weeks earlier.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/919 "2021-03-29T17:00:11Z")

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I’m hopeful that our higher vaccination rate will blunt the surge.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/920 "2021-03-29T17:06:44Z")

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🤞🏽

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/921 "2021-03-29T18:04:47Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I’m hopeful that our higher vaccination rate will blunt the surge.

I’m thinking at the moment vaccinations will currently blunt _deaths_, not cases. Lot’s of unvaccinated but not-that-at-risk folk out there in the US.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/922 "2021-03-29T19:21:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> New York

Yeah, the situation here (in New York City) isn’t great.

Just wandering around parts of the city (safely, by bicycle) this is what I’ve observed –

In the “hipster” neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Manhattan, masking is, well, considered optional. This isn’t data, this is just me eyeballing the streets, but mask wearing seems to be around 60%. Social distancing is non-existent. There are state and city regulations governing restaurants, and these are widely ignored in Brooklyn. Less so in Manhattan, probably because enforcement is stricter. The inspectors/sheriffs/whoever probably aren’t going to make the trip all the way out to Red Hook, and the restaurant and bar owners know this, and their places are packed, indoors, with unmasked people.

In the ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods of Brooklyn, masking, and social distancing, are non-existent. The people just aren’t doing it. At all.

In the old blue-collar neighborhoods of Brooklyn, I’d say mask wearing is around the same as in hipster 'hoods. Most people wear them. A lot don’t. There’s no social disapproval of those who don’t. People who meet on the street and want to chat pull down their masks.

In the poorest neighborhoods in Brooklyn, infection and hospitalization rates are going through the roof. But mask compliance isn’t great. I informally observe it to be, again, better than half, most people, but no more than 75%

Even in my not-so-hip, affluent neighborhood with high rates and levels of education, masking seems to have slipped to around 75%. A bit more so indoors, like at the supermarket, but outdoors, it’s around 75%. And even indoors (again, like at the supermarket), a fair number of people have to be “reminded” to put on a mask (at least if they get close to me – I’ve gotten _very_ intolerant of people who won’t wear a mask lately).

It’s not good…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/923 "2021-03-29T19:35:47Z")

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[https://www.axios.com/cdc-fourth-wave-db0a4d6e-3942-4719-9743-62912e5557e0.html](https://www.axios.com/cdc-fourth-wave-db0a4d6e-3942-4719-9743-62912e5557e0.html)

> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky went off script at a briefing Monday and made an emotional plea to Americans not to let up on public health measures amid fears of a fourth wave.
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> **What they’re saying:** “I’m going to reflect on the recurring feeling I have of impending doom," Walensky said, appearing to hold back tears. “We do not have the luxury of inaction. For the health of our country, we must work together now to prevent a fourth surge.”
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> …
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> **The big picture:** [Coronavirus cases are rapidly rising](https://www.axios.com/americans-vulnerable-coronavirus-cases-variants-vaccines-2add07de-5b0e-45d5-90fa-6bb80b521afc.html) in places including Michigan, New York, New Jersey and other Northeastern states, partially a result of variants of the virus becoming more widespread, experts say. An uptick in travel and states loosening restrictions are also factors.
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> - The 7-day daily average of new cases increased 10.6% from the previous week to 59,773, while the 7-day daily average of deaths increased 2.6% to 968.
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> …

Now is not the time to slack off on precautions.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/924 "2021-03-29T21:02:18Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> I’m thinking at the moment vaccinations will currently blunt _deaths_ , not cases. Lot’s of unvaccinated but not-that-at-risk folk out there in the US.

I can’t find the graphs for this so maybe I remember it wrong:  
The American over-70 death rate collapsed in the middle of last year. Old people haven’t been more likely to get COVID and die since then. So vaccinating at-risk people won’t have any more effect on the total death numbers than vaccinating any other group would have.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/925 "2021-03-29T21:33:40Z")

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> [@Melbourne](#):
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> I can’t find the graphs for this so maybe I remember it wrong:  
> The American over-70 death rate collapsed in the middle of last year. Old people haven’t been more likely to get COVID and die since then.

If you look at the Rachel Maddow clip that I shared yesterday, we’ve had two spikes in death rate among 65+ in the U.S.:

- The first spike was in the spring of last year, and then fell off in the summer
- The second spike was in late 2020, and peaked at a level that was almost as high as it had been during the first wave, before dramatically falling off starting in late January

The relevant info is at around 29 minutes in the clip.

> [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/901):
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> You are welcome! I found the clip; I had gotten the age bands slightly wrong (it was age 80+, and 65-79). In case anyone would like to see it, I have the YouTube video of the show cued up to that segment. [[- YouTube] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjR2Xy9Mgis)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/926 "2021-03-30T07:02:06Z")

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128,254,705 total cases  
2,804,706 dead  
103,466,706 recovered

In the US:

31,033,801 total cases  
563,206 dead  
23,509,220 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 127,771,302 total cases  
> 2,796,139 dead  
> 102,964,582 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 30,962,803 total cases  
> 562,526 dead  
> 23,410,884 recovered

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/927 "2021-03-30T12:58:13Z")

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vaccination rates for the u.s. are ticking up. we are at 1% of the population per day. the percent of doses used has slipped a bit from last week.

percent fully vaccinated 15.0  
percent with one dose 28.2

doses administered 143,462,691  
doses distributed 180,646,465  
percent of doses used 79

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/928 "2021-03-30T14:35:56Z")

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Turkey:

> **[Turkey reimposes restrictions after sharp rise in infections](https://apnews.com/article/turkey-coronavirus-pandemic-recep-tayyip-erdogan-ankara-europe-22adbf45d3773d1e84f05788ec73dae5)**
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> ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey is re-introducing weekend lockdowns in most of its provinces and will also impose restrictions over the Muslim holy month of Ramadan following a sharp increase in COVID-19 cases...

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/929 "2021-03-30T14:47:29Z")

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> **[Biden calls on states to keep mask mandates, pause reopenings](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/545426-biden-calls-on-states-to-keep-mask-mandates-pause-reopenings/)**
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> President Biden on Monday urged state and local officials to reconsider lifting their coronavirus restrictions and to reinstate mask mandates that have lapsed as the U.S. faces an in…

Spring has spring, and it’s going to be hard to convince people to show restraint.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/930 "2021-03-30T17:10:57Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Spring has spring, and it’s going to be hard to convince people to show restraint.

I resemble that!

Having gotten my 2nd shot yesterday, I’m waiting for another two weeks and them I’m going hog-wild!

Okay, well, not entirely, but somewhat. I’m going to lower my guard a little bit (go out more, enjoy the spring weather!) but I’ll still keep my distance and my mask when there are people around.

But mostly, I’ll simply worry about it a lot less.

I’m going to get my shaggy locks shorn for the first time in a year.

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