# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/991 "2021-04-04T04:19:54Z")
South Korea: > **[The Latest: SKorea's daily virus increase tops 500 again](https://apnews.com/article/manila-philippines-coronavirus-pandemic-asia-coronavirus-vaccine-ce43df515fe1da377afd87651ceda3ab)** > > SEOUL, South Korea -- South Korea’s daily increase in coronavirus infections exceeded 500 for the fourth straight day, a pace unseen since January, as experts raise concern about another viral surge amid a slow rollout in vaccines. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/992 "2021-04-04T04:21:43Z")
131,362,691 total cases 2,859,257 dead 105,739,697 recovered In the US: 31,383,126 total cases 568,513 dead 23,894,632 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 130,810,955 total cases > 2,850,399 dead > 105,304,521 recovered > > In the US: > > 31,314,625 total cases > 567,610 dead > 23,825,635 recovered ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/993 "2021-04-04T06:16:54Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > If one batch is 15 million doses then it is entirely believable. It’s not like they are mixing one dose at a time. You’re right. The article below says it was a single bad batch. Johnson & Johnson says it will take full control of its coronavirus vaccine production at Baltimore plant By Jon Swaine > **[Johnson & Johnson to take full control of its coronavirus vaccine...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/emergent-vaccine-jj-baltimore-plant/2021/04/03/25f7ade4-94e2-11eb-9668-89be11273c09_story.html)** > > Contamination of doses at the facility will not impede President Biden’s goal of having enough shots for every U.S. adult by the end of May, officials said. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/994 "2021-04-05T04:58:34Z")
131,919,922 total cases 2,866,006 dead 106,202,613 recovered In the US: 31,420,331 total cases 568,777 dead 23,946,703 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 131,362,691 total cases > 2,859,257 dead > 105,739,697 recovered > > In the US: > > 31,383,126 total cases > 568,513 dead > 23,894,632 recovered ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/995 "2021-04-05T13:16:36Z")
> **[Researchers Are Hatching a Low-Cost Coronavirus Vaccine (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/health/hexapro-mclellan-vaccine.html)** > > A new formulation entering clinical trials in Brazil, Mexico, Thailand and Vietnam could change how the world fights the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/996 "2021-04-05T14:36:05Z")
On the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Map site, Vermont has achieved a new record high daily case report (seven day averaged). again, it’s not all that high compared to other states, but it’s significant that they’re setting new records. On the Hopkins site, the seven day average of daily cases is clearly going up, but hasn’t yet set a new record. But CNN is reporting that the non-averaged daily case rate in Michigan is almost as high as it was at the beginning of December > **[Michigan adds more than 8,400 new Covid-19 cases in one day, the most since...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/04/us/michigan-rising-covid-cases/index.html)** > > Michigan reported 8,413 new Covid-19 cases on Saturday, bringing the state's total pandemic case count to 692,206, according to the state's health department. (Actually the Hopkins site has the seven-day averaged cases higher Saturday than on December 7, although not as high as November 30) It’s still trending up in several New England states, and in the world as a whole, for that matter. Scariest of all is India, whose average daily case rate is shooting up rapidly, and is now the world’s highest, eclipsing both the US and Brazil ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/997 "2021-04-05T15:26:11Z")
When people compare absolute case numbers and say that the second-most populous country has the world’s highest number, I don’t find that alarming at all. Rapid increases (or even just continuing slow increases) are worrying, as are cases per capita. In countries with over ten million people, the most worrying seem to be the Czech Republic, the USA, Portugal, Sweden, and Belgium. The UK seems to have turned the corner. I saw that India was vaccinating 2% of the population a day, which, if true, is astounding, and will very quickly get them to a point where the chain of transmission is interrupted. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/998 "2021-04-05T15:40:00Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I saw that India was vaccinating 2% of the population a day, which, if true, is astounding, and will very quickly get them to a point where the chain of transmission is interrupted India is by far the largest vaccine producer in the world. That’s probably helping quite a bit. And yes, their per capita case/death numbers haven’t even come close to the American numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/999 "2021-04-05T18:04:01Z")
Some good news: at least one virus expert is fairly relaxed about the risks of mutation: [https://www.thestreet.com/latest-news/there-are-no-covid-super-strains-yet-says-virologist-vincent-racaniello](https://www.thestreet.com/latest-news/there-are-no-covid-super-strains-yet-says-virologist-vincent-racaniello) ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1000 "2021-04-06T01:38:45Z")
It seems there’s a new Double Secret Mutation\* coronavirus that’s probably responsible for the big surge in India. One case has been found in the Bay area. > **[New Double Mutant Coronavirus Variant From India Found In California For...](https://deadline.com/2021/04/double-mutant-coronavirus-variation-india-discovered-in-california-1234727857/)** > > Just as California seemed to be on the verge of truly turning the Covid-19 corner, the Stanford Clinical Virology Lab confirmed a case of an emerging variant that originated in India, Deadline has … [\*] I’m probably not the first to call it that. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1001 "2021-04-06T03:57:10Z")
Looking at the charts on a per capita basis, the big surge in India isn’t yet as high as their first surge last year and no where near the surges in Western countries. We’ll see though. Still going up. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1002 "2021-04-06T05:22:56Z")
132,423,954 total cases 2,873,802 dead 106,750,307 recovered In the US: 31,496,976 total cases 569,282 dead 24,058,562 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 131,919,922 total cases > 2,866,006 dead > 106,202,613 recovered > > In the US: > > 31,420,331 total cases > 568,777 dead > 23,946,703 recovered ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1003 "2021-04-06T20:41:54Z")
the u.s. is at: 18.8% fully vaccinated 32.4% one dose 167,187,795 doses administered 207,891,395 doses distributed 80% doses used averaging around 3 million per day now. edging toward 4 million. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1004 "2021-04-06T21:52:05Z")
Good info, but being so sketchy it immediately raises two questions: 1. Are the percentages computed in terms of those eligible under the EUAs or of the US populace as a whole? Including or excluding the under-18s and some of the severe disease folks in the denominator makes a material difference in what those numbers say about the rest of us. 2. For the “averaging 3-4 million/day”, is that doses, or is that completed courses? IOW, are we turning out 1.5 million or 3 million fully vaccinated people per day? Quibbling aside … The sum of those first two numbers say we now have 51% who have demonstrated by deed, not just word, that they are willing to be vaccinated for COVID. And even assuming the more pessimistic 1.5-2 million completed 2-jab courses per day, that means something on the order of 1/2 to 3/4ths of one percent of the populace is completing each _day_. Which is gigantic. It will be very interesting to see how that total percentage moves over the next few weeks. When does the well of willing arms run dry and at what percentage of the eligible population? Of the total population? Will the Feds be able to divert manpower and resources to the places where the governors are trying hard to prevent vaccination? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1005 "2021-04-06T22:06:39Z")
It is from this site. > **[How are the COVID-19 vaccine and booster campaigns going in your state?](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state)** > > The U.S. is striving to vaccinate as many people as possible against COVID-19 — and keep them up-to-date with boosters. But some states are lagging behind. See how yours is faring. I put up the general numbers. it is broken down by states and demographics. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1006 "2021-04-06T22:07:40Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The sum of those first two numbers say we now have 51% who have demonstrated by deed, not just word, that they are willing to be vaccinated for COVID. Not correct. It is confusing but what can you do? Do not take the sum of the two numbers you are summing. 32.4% having one dose _means_ having at least one dose so includes the fully vaccinated people already. - it isn’t clear in rocking\_chair’s post, but 32.4% is consistent with what is reported from the NYT as “at least one dose” [Covid-19 Vaccinations: County and State Tracker - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html) ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1007 "2021-04-06T22:07:53Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Will the Feds be able to divert manpower and resources to the places where the governors are trying hard to prevent vaccination? Which governors would those be? Actually trying to prevent vaccinations is a new one. Even Trump is pro vaccination. Other policies, opening up too early are another matter. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1008 "2021-04-06T22:26:41Z")
Also posted this in the Astra Zeneca approval thread, but it is also breaking news, I think. AZ paused its trial of vaccine in children pending further information on the blood-clotting issues. > **[Oxford halts trial of AstraZeneca COVID vaccine in children and teenagers...](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/oxford-halts-trial-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-in-children-and-teenagers-over-blood-clotting-issue-2021-04-06)** > > The University of Oxford has paused administering doses of the COVID-19 vaccine it developed with AstraZeneca PLC undefinedundefined in a small U.K. study... ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1009 "2021-04-06T22:39:39Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Other policies, opening up too early are another matter. Here’s a nice tracker (at the state & county level) that provides some quantification on how difficult the rollout will be or is depending on a number of demographic factors. They summarize it as a “concern index” (how concerned should I be about the rollout if I live in XYZ county?). > **[Surgo U.S. COVID-19 Vaccine Coverage Index](https://vaccine.precisionforcovid.org/)** > > Bringing Greater Precision to the COVID-19 Vaccine Response ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1010 "2021-04-06T23:02:22Z")
Australia and New Zealand, which are both routinely scoring zero local transmission and seem to have managed the occasional escape of the virus from hotel quarantine effectively, have announced a travel bubble, which allows for air travel between the two with no requirement for mandatory quarantine. There has been a one way, NZ → Australia, arrangement without quarantine for a few months. New Zealand is also discussing similar links to other Pacific nations as well. Still some risks if there is a shutdown mid-holiday, but plenty of Australians go to NZ in our winter for skiing, general tourism and family stuff. > **[The trans-Tasman travel bubble is set to begin on April 19.](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-06/trans-tasman-travel-bubble-to-begin-on-april-19/13290578)** > > International travel with New Zealand is set to resume on April 19, with New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announcing a travel bubble on 'flyer beware' basis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=50)