# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 51
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1031 "2021-04-07T22:24:27Z")
Problem is, you have to vaccinate worldwide to achieve that goal. I am assuming that the “Brazilian variant” originated in Brazil. If our vaccines can’t stop that sort of variant, then there’s no difference here between the vaccinated and non-vaccinated. In fact, 75% vaccination everywhere would be better than 100% here, and other pockets with little to any. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1032 "2021-04-07T22:43:15Z")
My thoughts are all over the place on this. Part of me thinks that if they’re too stupid to take the vaccine then it’s on them; I don’t think I’m willing to pass laws to require the vaccine (although I would easily support laws that require them for government-supported activities, like going to school or flying). On the other hand a lot of vaccine-hesitant are minorities that distrust the government and/or the medical establishment. There was a recent article in the NYT about a nursing home (?) where a lot of the nursing staff were reluctant to get the vaccine; after a big push by the directory that got 78% of the staff vaccinated. All the ones profiled in the story were minorities. It’s hard for me to blame them; I certainly don’t think they are stupid. And you bring up a good point: just because they are stupid doesn’t mean they deserve to die. I just have a hard time feeling sympathy for people who make these decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1033 "2021-04-08T04:30:03Z")
If you know someone over 65 who hasn’t yet been vaccinated (at least their first dose), this article is about them: > **[Summoning seniors: Big new push to vaccinate older Americans](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-015ae8f41b2bf18d1e1e3fdb5d6ecee5)** > > CLARKSDALE, Miss. (AP) — The first hurdle was getting on the bus. Seventy-four-year-old Linda Busby hesitated outside a community center where older people were loading up to go get the coronavirus vaccine... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1034 "2021-04-08T04:32:47Z")
133,698,363 total cases 2,901,130 dead 107,828,758 recovered In the US: 31,637,243 total cases 572,849 dead 24,206,539 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 133,051,972 total cases > 2,887,039 dead > 107,301,408 recovered > > In the US: > > 31,560,438 total cases > 570,260 dead > 24,122,221 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1035 "2021-04-08T04:33:49Z")
UK advises limiting AstraZeneca in under-30s amid clot worry: > **[UK advises limiting AstraZeneca in under-30s amid clot worry](https://apnews.com/article/eu-rare-blood-clots-possibly-linked-astrazeneca-vaccine-1ec87a9b7f14f98e29962e9d055d27ed)** > > LONDON (AP) — British authorities recommended Wednesday that the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine not be given to adults under 30 where possible because of strengthening evidence that the shot may be linked to rare blood clots... ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1036 "2021-04-08T05:33:31Z")
Yesterday: > [@](#): > > In the US: > 31,560,438 total cases > 570,260 dead Today: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 31,637,243 total cases > 572,849 dead 2,589 dead in one day. Yes, there’s reporting delays for Easter weekend, but still: this is the highest daily US deaths since I think mid-late February. The 14-day average is 1000ish deaths/day. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1037 "2021-04-08T13:46:51Z")
Worldometers doesn’t show 2000+ dying in a day. I am assuming it was catch up reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@Eric\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric_C)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1038 "2021-04-08T18:08:20Z")
Oklahoma had a large cumulative increase since yesterday, but Worldometer must have retroactively adjusted the daily totals. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1039 "2021-04-08T21:20:37Z")
A well-informed blog post on the J&J manufacturing debacle: [https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/08/vaccine-manufacturing-woes-at-emergent](https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/08/vaccine-manufacturing-woes-at-emergent) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1040 "2021-04-08T23:23:42Z")
Worldwide: > **[Countries worldwide hit new records for virus cases, deaths](https://apnews.com/article/countries-worldwide-hit-new-records-coronavirus-cases-deaths-29b18a267fbe972766403f8de0fee415)** > > Ambulances filled with breathless patients lined up in Brazil as nations around the world set new records Thursday for COVID-19 deaths and new coronavirus infections... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1041 "2021-04-09T04:51:19Z")
134,528,841 total cases 2,915,013 dead 108,330,462 recovered In the US: 31,717,404 total cases 573,856 dead 24,272,869 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 133,698,363 total cases > 2,901,130 dead > 107,828,758 recovered > > In the US: > > 31,637,243 total cases > 572,849 dead > 24,206,539 recovered ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1042 "2021-04-09T12:14:10Z")
Michigan, according to the Johns Hopkins site, has finally hit a new record high in daily reported cases (seven day average), exceeding its previous record set on November 30. On their site, it’s the second state to hit a new record high in this wave (since January), after Vermont. But their high of 8785 far exceeds Vermont’s high of 190 just a week ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1043 "2021-04-09T16:00:52Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > **“I feel like I’m healthy,”** This delusional self-view is common among those refusing the vaccine – I’ve heard it from numerous obese people with high blood pressure, heart disease, COPD, and diabetes. Their definition of ‘healthy’ seems to be ‘not in the hospital right now’. Amazing ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1044 "2021-04-09T16:05:57Z")
I feel like whether a state meets this threshold has a lot to do with what it’s infection rate was a year ago. I wonder if there’s some other easy-to-note threshold that would be a more uniform indicator of things going badly today. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1045 "2021-04-09T16:33:56Z")
This is bothersome: > **[No region in the world spared as virus cases, deaths surge](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-cases-deaths-surge-worldwide-11ddf6338570db2f8c355d8e53a9b240)** > > WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Hospitals in Turkey and Poland are filling up. Pakistan is restricting domestic travel... Indeed, I noticed in the past few days that the curve upward in both new cases and deaths worldwide is really noticeable on the graphs now: [![](https://i.ibb.co/X2QXJcn/Wo-M-Covid-19-charts-9-April-2021.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/X2QXJcn/Wo-M-Covid-19-charts-9-April-2021.png) ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1046 "2021-04-09T16:38:52Z")
Africa doesn’t seem to be surging. Or the Western Pacific. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1047 "2021-04-09T16:41:19Z")
> [@Ziberian](#): > > Their definition of ‘healthy’ seems to be ‘not in the hospital right now’. There is an old joke: Doctor: How are you feeling today? Patient: I’m feeling pretty good! – but if I’d felt like this when I was 20, I’d have thought I was awful sick. Speaking from 69 with what turns out to be a congenital but slow-developing heart problem: one’s standards for feeling healthy change as the day to day basis for comparison changes. (I’m vaccinated, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1048 "2021-04-09T21:18:22Z")
Most of the island nations are still following rigorous quarantine processes, but: Timor L’Este - surge (on top of natural disaster) Papua New Guinea - surge Indonesia - overall coming off it Jan peak, but eastern provinces inc Irian Jaya seem to be on the up. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1049 "2021-04-09T21:23:12Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > A well-informed blog post on the J&J manufacturing debacle: Whenever I see a link to “In the Pipeline” in this thread (there have been several), I know before I even click that it’s going to be Derek Lowe, and worth reading. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1050 "2021-04-09T23:06:09Z")
I’m noticing that the number of deaths still seems to be mostly declining, which tells me the impact of the vaccines. The most vulnerable have been vaccinated; younger people who assume that they are bulletproof will drive the next surges, and they are playing with fire. The variants spread faster, and they are deadlier. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=50) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=52)