# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1151 "2021-04-19T22:20:53Z")

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I attended a Zoom webinar a few days ago and a question was, if you had one of the foreign vaccines like Sputnik and you came to the US, were you considered to be vaccinated, and the answer was no. The reply was that you should get the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine when you get here. So I imagine (though I am not a doctor) that you could use the same argument for adding on after getting one dose of J&J.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1152 "2021-04-19T22:51:49Z")

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The real scandal is that Emergent wasn’t shut down 10 or 15 years ago. Experts say it’s been a shitshow forever.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1153 "2021-04-19T23:03:25Z")

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That was my impression from the article I read when the news of the bad batch first came out. Apparently they have had numerous violations every time they have been inspected, and haven’t addressed them.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1154 "2021-04-19T23:46:26Z")

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And FDA keeps buying management’s claims that “we’ll fix it honest”, despite being an utterly broken piratical business.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1155 "2021-04-20T00:49:54Z")

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As has been pointed out, Johnson and Johnson is a one dose, so your friend is done.

The same question, though, has come up with people who are outside their country’s age restriction for Astra Zeneca, so they’ve been told not to get a second AZ shot. I’ve posted elsewhere the links to news about ongoing studies on mixing and matching 1st and 2nd doses. The research isn’t done, but I think the guess is that there will be no harm, and there may be some benefit, from mixing and matching.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1156 "2021-04-20T01:13:36Z")

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Yes, I bet when the dust clears it will be found that mixing and matching produces better results than staying with the same vaccine.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1157 "2021-04-20T04:40:59Z")

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142,713,292 total cases  
3,043,219 dead  
121,227,832 recovered

In the US:

32,475,043 total cases  
581,542 dead  
25,043,463 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 142,017,465 total cases  
> 3,033,003 dead  
> 120,554,503 recovered
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> In the US:
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> 32,404,454 total cases  
> 581,061 dead  
> 24,961,229 recovered

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1158 "2021-04-20T13:00:57Z")

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nation wide we are at:

25.7% fully vaccinated  
39.9% one dose

80% of doses used, 211,581,309 doses administered,

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**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1159 "2021-04-20T13:10:33Z")

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I’ve had one dose of AZ and will get the second one as well as thing stand here in Italy, which is just fine by me. However, in Germany they will give people under 60 who have had one shot another type and research is being done into the effects.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1160 "2021-04-20T18:54:06Z")

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[Countries worldwide hit new records for virus cases, deaths](https://apnews.com/article/countries-worldwide-hit-new-records-coronavirus-cases-deaths-29b18a267fbe972766403f8de0fee415):

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> Ambulances filled with breathless patients lined up in Brazil as nations around the world set new records Thursday for COVID-19 deaths and new coronavirus infections. The disease surged even in some countries that have kept the virus in check.
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> In the United States, Detroit leaders began making a plan to knock on every door to persuade people to get vaccine shots.
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> Brazil this week became just the second country, after the U.S., to report a 24-hour tally of COVID-19 deaths that [exceeded 4,000](https://apnews.com/article/health-brazil-sao-paulo-coronavirus-pandemic-latin-america-5a9e6e8cc48a5f50ba3727e2431713a0). India [hit a peak](https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-coronavirus-pandemic-asia-cambodia-phnom-penh-1f1fa10ca5c8007613e3533b97c5d5ba) of almost 127,000 new cases in 24 hours, and Iran set a new coronavirus infection record for [the third straight day](https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-iran-health-middle-east-coronavirus-pandemic-da55a596e2300f52d3a6a9a06e08cab4), reporting nearly 22,600 new cases.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1161 "2021-04-20T21:01:58Z")

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Vermont:

> **[Vermont sees decline in cases, strong vaccination rates](https://apnews.com/article/vermont-health-education-coronavirus-6612e2af279eb6823a780760a499c8a6)**
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> Vermont is seeing a steady drop in COVID-19 cases and a strong rate of people getting vaccinated, state officials said Tuesday, making them optimistic about the future and a more normal summer than last year's...

Good job, Vermont!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1162 "2021-04-20T22:30:50Z")

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Illinois:

> **[Health officials report drop in Illinois COVID-19 infections](https://apnews.com/article/public-health-illinois-coronavirus-health-4234bd88933bbe2de82efd9000b465fb)**
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> SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Numbers released by the Illinois Department of Public Health on Tuesday show the COVID-19 infection rate in the state is improving for the first time in weeks...

Good job, Illinois!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1163 "2021-04-21T04:19:08Z")

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143,556,326 total cases  
3,057,781 dead  
121,931,805 recovered

In the US:

32,536,470 total cases  
582,456 dead  
25,105,535 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 142,713,292 total cases  
> 3,043,219 dead  
> 121,227,832 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 32,475,043 total cases  
> 581,542 dead  
> 25,043,463 recovered

Today was the 2nd largest worldwide single-day new case total yet; it only missed the high mark by around 4,000.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1164 "2021-04-21T12:05:46Z")

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The Johns Hopkins Coronavirus map site also shows the number of world daily cases hitting a new high, as it was poised to do yesterday.

India has now so far surpassed the United States that it has set a new world record for daily reported cases (seven day averaged)

> **[New COVID-19 Cases Worldwide - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center](https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases)**
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> Have countries flattened the curve? Daily confirmed new COVID-19 cases for the most affected countries over time.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1165 "2021-04-21T13:04:44Z")

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[Oxygen supply disruption kills 22 COVID-19 patients in India](https://apnews.com/article/health-india-coronavirus-18da8b151607ac7e4d9ea10a5c5da6d1)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1166 "2021-04-22T03:12:34Z")

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Oops.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1167 "2021-04-22T03:34:49Z")

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[\> An unvaccinated worker set off an outbreak at a U.S. nursing home where most residents were immunized](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/health/vaccine-nursing-homes-infections.html?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20210421&instance_id=29525&nl=coronavirus-briefing&regi_id=125453650&segment_id=56051&te=1&user_id=73981d25df4000087fbe9ff100a60207)

This isn’t good. The math suggests that around 24% of the fully vaccinated residents got covid from the unvaccinated employee anyway.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1168 "2021-04-22T04:03:40Z")

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It’s pretty darned good, actually.

> **Most of those who were infected with the coronavirus despite being vaccinated did not develop symptoms or require hospitalization** , but one vaccinated individual, who was a resident of the nursing home, died, according to the study released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

My bold. How many would have been sick, hospitalized, and died without vaccination?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1169 "2021-04-22T04:04:40Z")

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Yeah, i found it sad, but somewhat reassuring.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1170 "2021-04-22T04:04:47Z")

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144,442,942 total cases  
3,071,758 dead  
122,635,044 recovered

In the US:

32,602,051 total cases  
583,330 dead  
25,177,434 recovered

Yesterday’s numbers for comparison:

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> 143,556,326 total cases  
> 3,057,781 dead  
> 121,931,805 recovered
> 
> In the US:
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> 32,536,470 total cases  
> 582,456 dead  
> 25,105,535 recovered

Today was a new high mark for new cases with over 880,000 worldwide.

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