# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1191 "2021-04-23T23:04:03Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > If they do only occur in women, then we need to know how many women have gotten the vaccine to have the right number for determining risk. Women 18-48, to be even more on target. Do they suspect a large number are going unnoticed? Because 3 dead and 7 hospitalized out of 15 cases sounds serious. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1192 "2021-04-23T23:08:17Z")
> [@FigNorton](#): > > Women 18-48, to be even more on target. Do they suspect a large number are going unnoticed? Because 3 dead and 7 hospitalized out of 15 cases sounds serious. I agree that it sounds serious, and I personally suspect there are more. But I haven’t seen anything about what is suspected by the regulators. I do know one member of the FDA advisory committee that voted to resume use of the vaccine had concerns about informed consent in that group: > “I voted yes, but I am concerned that consumers and women in this age group, in particular, will not be adequately informed just by the FDA [emergency use authorization] fact sheet,” said Beth Bell, a clinical professor in the department of global health at the University of Washington. Quote is from the WaPo article I linked above. ETA: same source (missed it earlier): > Among the 15 confirmed U.S. cases, the clotting reactions were rare, with 7 cases per 1 million vaccinations among women 18 to 49 years old, according to the CDC. There was fewer than 1 case per 1 million vaccinations in women older than 50. The reactions were most common in women in their 30s. That is around 1 in 143,000. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1193 "2021-04-23T23:20:20Z")
After some initially conflicting or lukewarm advice, the CDC is now recommending that pregnant people be vaccinated. CDC recommends pregnant women get coronavirus vaccine By Ariana Eunjung Cha > **[CDC recommends pregnant women get coronavirus vaccine](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/23/cdc-recommends-covid-vaccine-pregnant-women/)** > > Agency director Rochelle Walensky cited data showing ‘no safety concerns’ for more than 35,000 women in their third trimester or for their babies. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1194 "2021-04-24T04:06:57Z")
146,236,400 total cases 3,099,461 dead 124,022,653 recovered In the US: 32,735,704 total cases 585,075 dead 25,296,047 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 145,344,801 total cases > 3,085,284 dead > 123,344,649 recovered > > In the US: > > 32,669,121 total cases > 584,226 dead > 25,236,658 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1195 "2021-04-24T20:26:09Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > And somehow, I’m not shocked. That was a baffling conclusion, with or without Covid. I know people that think smoking kills lung cancer because everyone they know seem to get lung cancer right about 6 months after they quit smoking. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1196 "2021-04-25T04:14:17Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > FWIW, I think the dates in that chart are fairly ambitious, since Thailand is in the middle of a big breakout in cases. I’d assume the areas open to tourists would need to have virtually all Thai residents vaccinated for this plan to work. Thailand is falling apart as I type. The situation has become so bad just in the past few days that at last count, almost half of Thailand’s 76 provinces are now requiring quarantine from everyone or just plain blocking people from entering. The wife and I don’t see ourselves visiting anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1197 "2021-04-25T05:01:41Z")
147,074,132 total cases 3,112,966 dead 124,711,525 recovered In the US: 32,789,653 total cases 585,880 dead 25,339,874 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 146,236,400 total cases > 3,099,461 dead > 124,022,653 recovered > > In the US: > > 32,735,704 total cases > 585,075 dead > 25,296,047 recovered ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1198 "2021-04-25T06:21:32Z")
NYTimes article on how India is covering up the number of deaths from COVID: > **[As Covid-19 Devastates India, Deaths Go Undercounted (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world/asia/india-coronavirus-deaths.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage)** > > Fatalities have been overlooked or downplayed, understating the human toll of the country’s outbreak, which accounts for nearly half of all new cases in a global surge. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1199 "2021-04-25T09:47:00Z")
Madrid, Spain: > **[Spanish man charged with infecting 22 people with COVID-19](https://apnews.com/article/health-europe-coronavirus-9f9b58ace372e895f2c6d29157a44bdf)** > > MADRID (AP) — A Spanish man with COVID-19 symptoms who coughed on work colleagues and told them “I’m going to give you all the coronavirus” has been charged with intentionally causing injury after allegedly infecting 22 people. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1200 "2021-04-25T22:44:35Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Thailand is falling apart as I type. The situation has become so bad just in the past few days that at last count, almost half of Thailand’s 76 provinces are now requiring quarantine from everyone or just plain blocking people from entering. The wife and I don’t see ourselves visiting anytime soon. Speaking of Thailand, that country has now closed its borders to all Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi nationals along with any other foreigners coming from those countries. Honestly, Thais dislike South Asians so much that I would not see this as an unpopular measure even in the best of times. ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1201 "2021-04-25T23:37:39Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Speaking of Thailand, that country has now closed its borders to all Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi nationals along with any other foreigners coming from those countries. Honestly, Thais dislike South Asians so much that I would not see this as an unpopular measure even in the best of times. Could you elaborate? Is this related to South Asians being generally less affluent than Western visitors? I believe Thailand has a lot in common with India in terms of Hindu / Buddhist culture. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1202 "2021-04-25T23:53:39Z")
The recent history of the Rohingya in Myanmar should give you a hint. In summary, ill-educated rural Buddhists don’t much like ill-educated rural Muslims or ill-educated rural Hindus. > **[Rohingya genocide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > > Insurgent groups > Refugee crisis To be sure, Thailand isn’t Myanmar, and Laos or Vietnam are each different in turn. But hating the Other is always a popular sentiment. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1203 "2021-04-26T00:21:39Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > And somehow, I’m not shocked. That was a baffling conclusion, with or without Covid. But it is an unusual kind of retraction. Not for using false numbers, nor for being not-repeatable, unethical, or having bad arithmetic. So if it was baffling, it is still baffling: the retraction by the publisher doesn’t address that aspect of the report. I must add that although I found the report surprising, and thought it likely to be a purely statistical anomaly, I didn’t find it baffling. Smoking was for a long time thought to be protective against colds and lung disease: finding that it sometimes/rarely had such an effect would be explanatory, not baffling. Also, smoking is known to be destructive to epithelial cells, such as those susceptible to COVID infection. Finding that smoking has a protective effect beyond bad reporting and/or statistical anomaly would be surprising, but again, not baffling. Just to be clear: I think that smoking is a COVID risk factor, like age, not protective. (Not funded by the tobacco industry.) Conflicts of interest: none. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1204 "2021-04-26T01:40:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Madrid, Spain: Seems to me that he ought to be charged with attempted 1st-degree murder. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1205 "2021-04-26T03:08:38Z")
> [@mandala](#): > > Could you elaborate? Is this related to South Asians being generally less affluent than Western visitors? I believe Thailand has a lot in common with India in terms of Hindu / Buddhist culture. It’s been deeply rooted in Thai culture for centuries if not millennia. At the risk of sounding offensive, there is in fact a common saying, told to me on more than one occasion, that goes, “If you’re walking down the street, and you see a snake and an Indian, take a stick and beat the Indian.” I have met Indian-Thais, some of them even born and raised in Bangkok with no experience of their “mother country,” and they have some interesting tales. Thais tend to look down on all their neighbors, they really did not miss out when pride was handed out, but South Asians are a particular target for reviling. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1206 "2021-04-26T03:21:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The recent history of the Rohingya in Myanmar should give you a hint. In summary, ill-educated rural Buddhists don’t much like ill-educated rural Muslims or ill-educated rural Hindus. Thais/Siamese and Burmese have fought a series of wars over the last several centuries. No love lost between them. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1207 "2021-04-26T04:02:15Z")
147,794,679 total cases 3,122,705 dead 125,344,658 recovered In the US: 32,824,389 total cases 586,152 dead 25,379,831 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 147,074,132 total cases > 3,112,966 dead > 124,711,525 recovered > > In the US: > > 32,789,653 total cases > 585,880 dead > 25,339,874 recovered ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1208 "2021-04-26T04:13:45Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > It’s been deeply rooted in Thai culture for centuries if not millennia. At the risk of sounding offensive, there is in fact a common saying, told to me on more than one occasion, that goes, “If you’re walking down the street, and you see a snake and an Indian, take a stick and beat the Indian.” I have met Indian-Thais, some of them even born and raised in Bangkok with no experience of their “mother country,” and they have some interesting tales. > > Thais tend to look down on all their neighbors, they really did not miss out when pride was handed out, but South Asians are a particular target for reviling. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Thais/Siamese and Burmese have fought a series of wars over the last several centuries. No love lost between them. Game of Risk - The Balkans, Southeast Asia edition ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1209 "2021-04-26T06:21:37Z")
Surprising that I don’t see a post about this yet. Did I miss something? Massive fire in hospital in Baghdad, Iraq kills 82 patients, many (most?) of them Covid patients, and injures at least 100 others. Suspected cause is explosion of an oxygen tank. Plus the hospital didn’t have adequate fire alarm or suppression equipment. > **[At least 82 killed in massive Baghdad hospital fire | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/24/middleeast/baghdad-hospital-fire-oxygen-tanks-explosion-intl/index.html)** > > At least 82 people died in a huge hospital fire Saturday night in Iraq's capital city of Baghdad, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1210 "2021-04-26T06:36:40Z")
Undeclared conflicts of interest are a big deal in studies, though. Plus I wonder if it was withdrawn to avoid greater scrutiny that might show some cherry picking or other such attempts to “find” the results they wanted to achieve… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=60)