# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/101 "2021-01-11T13:44:04Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It’s scary that, even after the start of distribution of vaccines, and despite what appeared to be a dip, the worldwide number of new daily cases, as reported on the Johns Hopkins site, still appears to be rising. But entirely predictable, given the timing. I think we are seeing the holiday bump in numbers. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/102 "2021-01-11T13:48:53Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > > [@CalMeacham](#): > > > > It’s scary that, **even after the start of distribution of vaccines,** and despite what appeared to be a dip, the worldwide number of new daily cases, as reported on the Johns Hopkins site, still appears to be rising. > > But entirely predictable, given the timing. I think we are seeing the holiday bump in numbers. - It takes several weeks for the immune system to fully rev up after vaccination plus the first dose does not give full immunity. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/103 "2021-01-11T13:50:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It takes several weeks for the immune system to fully rev up after vaccination plus the first dose does not give full immunity. That too. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/104 "2021-01-11T13:54:53Z")
At least 3 new variants of the virus, some apparently more contagious, prolly has something to do with it as well. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/105 "2021-01-11T14:16:49Z")
There’s been “variants” throughout the pandemic, it’s just that since the more contagious UK version popped up everyone has started reporting on them again. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/106 "2021-01-11T15:16:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It takes several weeks for the immune system to fully rev up after vaccination plus the first dose does not give full immunity. I understand vaccinated people can still GET the virus (and presumably test positive). For communities, widespread testing is seen as vital to getting a handle on where the community stands WRT COVID, i.e., “how many have tested positive in our community?” How will we sort out the reporting numbers once millions and millions of people are vaccinated but some will still test positive? I guess the hospitalization/death numbers will tell the accurate tale at that point? Correct me if my thinking doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/107 "2021-01-11T15:36:55Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > P.S. If the U.S. rollout had been handled well, you already, today, would have EMT’s telling TV news that they were seeing fewer COVID calls. For a little reality check, it’s been 3 weeks since Israel started their vaccine program and their covid cases are still rocketing up. In fact, weekly new case average worse than the US. > **[An interactive visualization of COVID-19 | 91-DIVOC](http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=United%20States&show=highlight-only&y=highlight&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right-all&extra=Israel#countries-normalized)** > > An interactive, data-forward visualization of COVID-19 data by Prof. Wade at The University of Illinois. Updated daily. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/108 "2021-01-11T15:40:31Z")
Does anyone have a data source for the number of vaccinations that are being carried out _each day_, either by state or for the U.S. as a whole? All I can find is aggregate totals, which I don’t find very helpful. We know things went poorly at the beginning, I’m interested in seeing how efficiently we’re implementing vaccination _now_, and whether it’s improving. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/109 "2021-01-11T15:44:48Z")
The Bloomberg vaccine tracker has that. [https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/) Scroll down and there’s a time/vaccination chart where you can highlight a state. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/110 "2021-01-11T15:50:56Z")
> [@FigNorton](#): > > Scroll down and there’s a time/vaccination chart where you can highlight a state. That’s still the aggregate total. It shows graphically how the aggregate total is increasing over time, but it’s visually hard to discern the first derivative of that line, which is what I’m interested in. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/111 "2021-01-11T15:52:36Z")
Maybe I’m misunderstanding what exactly you are going for. Doesn’t the height of each step on that graph show how well they did that day? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/112 "2021-01-11T15:55:50Z")
I’m interested in what the height of each daily step is now, and how the height of each daily step is changing over time. It’s very hard to discrern that from a plot of the _aggregate_ height of all the steps. In other words, I want to see the first derivative of that plot. The interactive graph is also terrible if you want to hover and see the underlying data - all the states are shown on the same graph with lines very close together, so it’s almost impossible to isolate the numbers for one state. ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/113 "2021-01-11T15:58:27Z")
Yes, I was just playing with it and not being able to isolate a state on the graph is not good. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/114 "2021-01-11T16:32:30Z")
91 divoc has added a vaccination graph. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/115 "2021-01-11T17:43:53Z")
Doctors say that flu cases are lowest in history. They surmise it might be due to mask wearing, more flu shots taken and the lack of international travel. > [@](#): > > While the pandemic dominates every aspect of life everywhere, Doctors say something quietly remarkable is happening to another typically dangerous virus, leaving them with a question: What happened to the flu? > > Statistics show flu numbers are not only very low, they might be the lowest seasonal numbers in recorded history. > **[‘What happened to flu season?’ Doctors say flu cases are lowest in recorded...](https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/what-happened-flu-season-doctors-say-flu-cases-are-lowest-recorded-history/Q3RZ2GYKYVHRTGSYP2VFKALV64/)** > > While the pandemic dominates every aspect of life everywhere, Doctors say something quietly remarkable is happening to another typically dangerous virus, leaving them with a question: What happened to the flu? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/116 "2021-01-11T18:36:57Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It’s scary that, even after the start of distribution of vaccines, and despite what appeared to be a dip, the worldwide number of new daily cases, as reported on the Johns Hopkins site, still appears to be rising. Just under 13% of the deaths so far in New Hampshire happened **in 2021** …I don’t imagine it’s going to get much better for another 2-4 weeks because the vast majority of people who have died lived in nursing homes/assisted living and many of these folks have yet to get even their first shot. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/117 "2021-01-11T22:10:02Z")
West Virginia: > **[West Virginia breaks new grim record for virus cases, deaths](https://apnews.com/article/west-virginia-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-d1dbd45433cbbc5f677a513b0c287616)** > > CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — West Virginia reported a new peak in confirmed coronavirus cases and a record 206 deaths last week... ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/118 "2021-01-11T22:24:35Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > They surmise it might be due to mask wearing, more flu shots taken and the lack of international travel. This demonstrates that Covid is much much more virulent and deadly than the flu (as if we didn’t know). We’re acting in a way that massively depresses spread of the flu and yet Covid is still raging. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/119 "2021-01-11T22:27:26Z")
It also strongly suggests that social distancing measures, even in the half-assed way thay have been implemented & followed, do have a very significant effect in quantitatively reducing spread, and that we would be in far deeper shit without them. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/120 "2021-01-11T22:49:04Z")
We may soon have to begin asking “what won’t this virus infect?” > **[Gorillas test positive for coronavirus at San Diego park](https://apnews.com/article/wildlife-san-diego-coronavirus-pandemic-gorillas-primates-728944350363be5d4b0bc907f31f3b8d)** > > SAN DIEGO (AP) — Several gorillas at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park have tested positive for the coronavirus in what is believed to be the first known cases among such primates in the United States and possibly the world... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=7)