# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1211 "2021-04-26T08:28:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Plus I wonder if it was withdrawn to avoid greater scrutiny that might show some cherry picking or other such attempts to “find” the results they wanted to achieve… No, it was withdrawn by the publisher, because the authors were liars. That would reflect badly on the publisher and publication, regardless of the content, and negates the value of the research, because if they can’t see what other people regard as a conflict of interest, what else are they blind to? The authors still want to publish, and have offered all their data for examination, but I don’t think anybody is interested: it was already a difficult field, and stuff like this makes it even more difficult to get independent funding. If you want to draw parallels, the parallel would be all that turn-of-the-century climate-change stuff that _should_ have been withdrawn, because of the damage it did to the whole field, with people not believing _anything_ that was published. Or research on tissue rejection and the immune system: after some bad publicity, the whole field went into remission for 10~15 years. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1212 "2021-04-26T12:47:03Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Surprising that I don’t see a post about this yet. Did I miss something? > > Massive fire in hospital in Baghdad, Iraq kills 82 patients… I did see that in the news. It truly is hard to comprehend/keep up with all the side disasters accompanying the Major Disaster. 😧 ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1213 "2021-04-26T13:14:08Z")
There are numerous such prejudices within India which is an extremely diverse society. But one learns to let go such prejudices and live in harmony with other cultures. But apparently the Thais have been holding on to theirs with determination “for millennia”. This is so sad. “Welcome to Bali, the tropical paradise with some dark secrets.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1214 "2021-04-26T13:18:16Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Surprising that I don’t see a post about this yet. Did I miss something? It’s not a Covid news story. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1215 "2021-04-26T14:05:43Z")
More from Thailand: > **[Thailand's prime minister fined for breaking face mask rule](https://apnews.com/article/health-thailand-bangkok-coronavirus-business-b9f89c920164494ac50a1f008198b895)** > > BANGKOK (AP) — Authorities in Thailand are imposing fines of up to 20,000 baht ($640) for people who fail to wear face masks in public in 48 provinces, as the government struggles to cope with a new wave of coronavirus cases that is straining the... ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1216 "2021-04-26T14:42:11Z")
> [@mandala](#): > > But one learns to let go such prejudices and live in harmony with other cultures. But apparently the Thais have been holding on to theirs with determination “for millennia”. This is so sad. > > “Welcome to Bali, the tropical paradise with some dark secrets.” 😛 Bali, _Indonesia_??? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1217 "2021-04-26T15:01:39Z")
India is doing really, really badly right now: > **[SOS messages, panic as virus breaks India's health system](https://apnews.com/article/health-india-coronavirus-1bda2318594d65be400074da41fa13c6)** > > NEW DELHI (AP) — Dr. Gautam Singh dreads the daily advent of the ventilator beeps, signaling that oxygen levels are critically low, and hearing his desperately ill patients start gasping for air in the New Delhi emergency ward where he works... ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1218 "2021-04-26T15:22:18Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > statistical anomaly would be surprising, but again, not baffling. You don’t like/agree with the word baffling here. OK. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > India is doing really, really badly right now: Earlier, it was baffling that India was doing so well. It was said that mask wearing made the difference. They claimed victory and then dropped the requirements for several big events. Without enough vaccines, things can change very quickly. > [@](#): > > Millions of Hindu devotees [celebrated the festival of Holi](https://apnews.com/article/india-holi-celebrations-coronavirus-surge-67d581dabaf885a4be66dd03669f9140) across the country at the end of March, foregoing social distancing guidelines and masks. Politicians, including Modi, spearheaded [mammoth election rallies](https://apnews.com/article/narendra-modi-india-coronavirus-pandemic-elections-4f72b64bea1ff112d83d4a2a5486a1c7) where tens of thousands participated without masks. And [millions more gathered by the Ganges River for special Hindu prayers](https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-india-coronavirus-pandemic-narendra-modi-hinduism-bcb998e286c5345b734fc4307848df86) as recently as last week. > > Now it’s suspected all these events might have accelerated the unprecedented surge India is seeing now. ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1219 "2021-04-26T15:44:42Z")
Oops mea culpa! I meant Pattaya. ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1220 "2021-04-26T15:51:05Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Millions of Hindu devotees [celebrated the festival of Holi](https://apnews.com/article/india-holi-celebrations-coronavirus-surge-67d581dabaf885a4be66dd03669f9140) across the country at the end of March, foregoing social distancing guidelines and masks. Politicians, including Modi, spearheaded [mammoth election rallies](https://apnews.com/article/narendra-modi-india-coronavirus-pandemic-elections-4f72b64bea1ff112d83d4a2a5486a1c7) where tens of thousands participated without masks. And [millions more gathered by the Ganges River for special Hindu prayers](https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-india-coronavirus-pandemic-narendra-modi-hinduism-bcb998e286c5345b734fc4307848df86) as recently as last week. > > Now it’s suspected all these events might have accelerated the unprecedented surge India is seeing now. That might have contributed to the surge, but not much is being said of the “double mutant” strain of the virus found in India. (Some media outlets are terming it “triple-mutant”; don’t know what that means and if it refers to the same strain.) Also how are superspreader events held to blame? There is certainly not enough data to prove that the Hindu festivals or the thousands of Ramadaan iftaar parties happening all over India are to blame for this surge. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1221 "2021-04-26T17:55:57Z")
> [@mandala](#): > > Also how are superspreader events held to blame? Well, by default a superspreader event consists of large crowds that aren’t using masks or keeping a safe distance from each other. there may already have been crowd immunity in India for the original virus and the newer versions spread quickly. Hard to say. It’s not really relevant beyond the need to be as proactive as possible when the numbers turn against a region. We’ve seen that all over the world. Maybe the WHO should be proactive in nudging governments if they’re slow to react and help cue up the resources needed for a faster response. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1222 "2021-04-26T18:24:27Z")
> [@Melbourne](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > Plus I wonder if it was withdrawn to avoid greater scrutiny that might show some cherry picking or other such attempts to “find” the results they wanted to achieve… > > No, it was withdrawn by the publisher, because the authors were liars. That would reflect badly on the publisher and publication, regardless of the content, and negates the value of the research, because if they can’t see what other people regard as a conflict of interest, what else are they blind to? I don’t disagree. The only difference is that I am more credulous that people who ignored that level of conflict of interest would have accidentally made mistakes instead of doing so on purpose. I was assuming some level of willful blindness, but you’re right that it could just be ignorance. That said, this post seems weird to me compared to your other post. In it, you were saying it was odd that the study was retracted. But, in this post, you seem to know exactly why it was retracted. It seems like my original reply was entirely unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1223 "2021-04-26T21:40:54Z")
Youth is no panacea: > **[Child under 10 with no underlying conditions dies from COVID](https://apnews.com/article/health-nursing-homes-coronavirus-ef2b3a7b554cc7252e96674e021e1c50)** > > ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — A southwestern Minnesota child under 10 years old with no underlying health conditions has died due to complications from the coronavirus, state officials said Monday. > [@](#): > > A southwestern Minnesota child under 10 years old with no underlying health conditions has died due to complications from the coronavirus, state officials said Monday. > > It’s the third COVID-19 death of a child under 18 in Minnesota since the start of the pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1224 "2021-04-26T23:26:09Z")
Interesting article here on infections occurring after vaccination: > **[‘How did that happen?’ Catching covid-19 even after being vaccinated.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/how-did-that-happen-catching-covid-19-even-after-being-vaccinated/2021/04/23/a31983a6-a21b-11eb-a774-7b47ceb36ee8_story.html)** > > A pediatrician got the disease seven weeks after receiving her second dose. She is among a tiny but growing number who are contending with this disturbing experience. > [@](#): > > In recent data, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that at least 5,800 people had fallen ill or tested positive for the [coronavirus](https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/?itid=lk_inline_manual_6) two weeks or more after they completed both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1225 "2021-04-26T23:48:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Interesting article here on infections occurring after vaccination:. Interesting how a pediatrician thought a vaccine made her invincible. It’s pretty well known that you can get the flu even if you’ve had a flu shot, even for the type of flu in the flu shot. The doctor in the article was taking care of her two children sick with Covid. The effectiveness rate of the vaccine is not 100%. Even if it somehow were, she was also caring for her father who had cancer. Luckily, he didn’t get it, but she didn’t give any thought to her transmitting it either. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1226 "2021-04-26T23:52:22Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > More from Thailand: I would like to congratulate the relevant authorities for enforcing the rule on the prime minister. I imagine it took some courage. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1227 "2021-04-26T23:54:02Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Interesting article here on infections occurring after vaccination: And, of course, the idiotic fringe is declaring that vaccines are worthless because they’re not perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1228 "2021-04-27T04:50:03Z")
148,497,686 total cases 3,133,860 dead 126,139,884 recovered In the US: 32,875,045 total cases 586,611 dead 25,475,789 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 147,794,679 total cases > 3,122,705 dead > 125,344,658 recovered > > In the US: > > 32,824,389 total cases > 586,152 dead > 25,379,831 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1229 "2021-04-27T12:54:04Z")
Sequential stories on the AP: [Bismarck School Board votes to end COVID-19 mask mandate](https://apnews.com/article/health-bismarck-coronavirus-school-boards-3b48882f8b2bb1dc0bc52a543b0cf749) [Minnesota child dies of COVID-19 complications](https://apnews.com/article/technology-pandemics-europe-india-coronavirus-pandemic-adb43be663eeddb0ec638f1acf376735) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1230 "2021-04-27T17:44:16Z")
I was talking to a coworker in India today, and the news there is devastating. It’s one thing to read the numbers in the news, but it’s very different hearing it personally from someone going through it. Bangalore just entered another 15-day shutdown, which essentially means you don’t leave your home at all. There are covid-specific crematoriums, and they all have ambulances parked outside waiting for space to burn the bodies. For the religions that don’t allow cremation, the government has acquired farmland for burials because the cemeteries are full. Hospitals beds are completely full, and patients are sleeping outside in cots. He has 6 covid-positive people in his building that he knows of, and he shares a wall with one of them. It’s a terrifying situation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=61)