# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1473 "2021-06-02T00:35:09Z")
What are the odds the bird flu hits Las Vegas? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1474 "2021-06-02T01:48:49Z")
[Mexico ups official COVID death toll to 227,840.](https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-europe-lifestyle-travel-coronavirus-pandemic-c2bbbc253107c231d161267cfeb62594) > [@](#): > > Mexico says a clinical review of past deaths has led officials to raise the country’s confirmed COVID-19 death toll by 4,272, to a total of 227,840. > > The adjustment announced Tuesday is largely one of record keeping, because even government officials acknowledge the true death toll is far higher. > > Because the country of 126 million people does so little testing, many Mexicans have died at home or never got a test. So the government searches death certificates for mentions of symptoms related to COVID-19. > > Those analyses of excess deaths related to COVID-19 now stand at over 348,750, which gives Mexico one of the highest per capita rates in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1475 "2021-06-02T04:07:26Z")
171,937,637 total cases 3,575,782 dead 154,419,808 recovered In the US: 34,136,738 total cases 610,436 dead 27,940,918 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 171,471,511 total cases > 3,565,190 dead > 153,779,490 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,113,146 total cases > 609,767 dead > 27,863,840 recovered ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1476 "2021-06-02T11:16:28Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > In a city built on knowing the odds, I think they are going to lose that bet. IMO the city is making a more sophisticated bet than you / the article author is thinking of. If lots of unvaxxed out-of-towners come to Vegas, stay the usual 3 or 4 days, spread COVID to other unvaxxed out-of-towners then they all leave, how is Vegas harmed? Meanwhile they got all that Sweet, $chweet Revenue! All the workers are wearing masks all the time, vaxxed or unvaxxed. As we found in the airline biz, if you can keep your workers no shit masked 100% at work you can keep most of this at bay, vaccine or no. Bottom line: The USA might lose, but Vegas wins. Sounds like biz as usual in my old town. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1477 "2021-06-02T13:03:13Z")
Hmm, if that really becomes a major vector, it might make the news. Doctors routinely ask me about recent travel when I present with symptoms that might be a disease. I would guess that’s standard operating practice. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1478 "2021-06-02T13:24:25Z")
True. But there’s a big gap between the questions doctors might ask and that data getting forwarded in a nationally consistent fashion to CDC for statistically valid analysis. Even worse, the non-vaxxers / anti-vaxxers are by definition people who are largely unwilling to cooperate with anything that smacks of public health. I’d expect most of these questions to be answered as “None of your business” if they’re feeling well enough to be confrontational and as “No” if they’re not. Truth be damned. As well, for the asymptomatic and low-symptomatic spreaders, it’s unlikely they’ll seek medical attention in the first place. Ref poor @JaneDoe42’s tales in this thread of her very sick, very COVID-hoax, very anti-vaxx husband who AFAIK has not seen a doctor yet. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1479 "2021-06-02T14:13:29Z")
> **[Analysis | The pandemic is getting worse, even when it seems like it’s...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/06/02/global-pandemic-worsening/)** > > The coronavirus pandemic may feel over for many Americans, but it’s heating up in other parts of the world. > In the United States, life is returning to normal.\* > … > > But the pandemic is hardly in retreat elsewhere. The emergence of more virulent variants of the virus in countries like Brazil and India and the slowness of vaccination efforts in many places outside the West have contributed to deadly new waves. > … > > Southeast Asia, once a bastion of resistance to the virus as it ravaged Western countries, is in the grip of a harrowing spike in infections. Cases in Thailand and Vietnam rose dramatically over the past month. [Malaysia](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/31/malaysia-covid-virus-infections-lockdown/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10) is now registering more new infections per million people than any medium- or large-size country in Asia, surpassing India, which remains a global hot spot. > … > > In Africa, concerns are growing over the possible arrival of a new wave powered by a more transmissible variant of the virus, with the health systems in many countries at risk of being quickly subsumed by a surge of infections. > … > > In parts of Latin America, the virus rages on, largely unabated. Peru, according to [its own government-adjusted data](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/01/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/#link-KF6BD64DEJCKDPAM7XJ3A2XFDE?itid=lk_inline_manual_16), now has the worst covid-19 mortality rate per capita in the world. The country is slated to stage a closely contested presidential runoff election this weekend. > > Even in East Asia, where a handful of nations set the gold standard in preventing community spread, the virus is on the march. Taiwan has seen [an explosion of cases](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/01/covid-public-health-prof-on-taiwan-outbreak-vaccination-progress.html) over the past month. In Japan, which still intends to host the Summer Olympics, numerous areas including Tokyo remain under a state of emergency. > … > > “It would be a monumental error for any country to think the danger has passed,” WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Monday at the close of the World Health Assembly. > … IOW the fat lady hasn’t sung yet. * * * \*“Returning to normal” for most of us, but in the USA there are still 300-400 people dying every day of COVID. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1480 "2021-06-02T16:48:59Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Ref poor @JaneDoe42’s tales in this thread of her very sick, very COVID-hoax, very anti-vaxx husband who AFAIK has not seen a doctor yet. [He went to the doctor a few days ago](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/may-we-have-a-new-mini-rant-thread/941217/291) and got a confirmed diagnosis. While he’s too sick to object, @JaneDoe42 is adopting a very cute Maine Coon kitten. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1481 "2021-06-02T16:49:51Z")
The Washington Post has a terrific article about (and including many of) Dr. Fauci’s emails from March & April 2020: > **[Anthony Fauci’s pandemic emails: ‘All is well despite some crazy people in...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/tony-fauci-emails/)** > > Fauci’s correspondence from March and April 2020, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, offers a peek into his world during the frantic early days of the coronavirus crisis. The guy is a rock. A rock who totally fucking rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1482 "2021-06-02T18:48:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > The guy is a rock. A rock who totally fucking rocks. Can you explain this? [He deliberately misled the nation about masks early on](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/dr-fauci-admits-feds-initially-misled-about-face-masks-wanted-to-make-sure-health-care-workers-had-enough/ar-BB15A4kO) and your cite shows the Chinese warned him about it. As the coronavirus pandemic engulfed the world last spring, Science magazine quoted a top Chinese health official saying that the United States and other Western nations were making a “big mistake” by not telling people to mask up. ---
**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1483 "2021-06-02T19:51:54Z")
An unfortunate consequence of the lack of a coordinated effort to ramp up production and distribution of protective equipment. Medical personnel - the ultimate front-line workers -were trying to make do with reusing masks, garbage bags, homemade bits of cloth - whatever they could come up with. Then, when the dissembling could no longer contain the truth of the situation, hoarding started. Though I wish there had been a more honest way to convey the message that the general public couldn’t have the best masks because there weren’t enough to go around, it would have been better still if such prevarications weren’t necessary, and the response to the early pandemic had been mature, prompt, and effective. Of course, Dr. Fauci explains this in that same referenced article. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1484 "2021-06-02T21:17:32Z")
> **[The unseen covid-19 risk for unvaccinated people](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2021/covid-rates-unvaccinated-people/?utm_campaign=subs-paywall-rem&utm_medium=acq-nat&utm_source=facebook&utm_content=interactive-unvaccinated&fbclid=IwAR02g9v1wuuBNZU0HbWelKpss8HiXX0l1bBE4Oi3PMJRfTHlhhUeDB0yTBQ)** > > With the adjustment for vaccination, the national death rate is roughly the same as it was two months ago, while the adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. “Unvaccinated people” – [you know … morons.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/517cfcb5434328a1086b7d5f65adf6f3/tumblr_ocy9d6bVfn1rbvhgao5_500.gifv) ETA: for some reason, I hit a paywall clicking from here but not from Facebook. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1485 "2021-06-02T21:31:11Z")
Here’s the graph of the national death rate from the above link. [https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t45.1600-4/cp0/q75/spS444/c0.38.525.274a/p235x350/192051204\_6241221017227\_2792584328664830084\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=100&ccb=1-3&\_nc\_sid=67cdda&\_nc\_ohc=oKBAzDA\_lpoAX\_4YYXy&\_nc\_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&tp=31&oh=be6d5c9a446c1f4a0e6b4457f3163e4b&oe=60BD950F](https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t45.1600-4/cp0/q75/spS444/c0.38.525.274a/p235x350/192051204_6241221017227_2792584328664830084_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=67cdda&_nc_ohc=oKBAzDA_lpoAX_4YYXy&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&tp=31&oh=be6d5c9a446c1f4a0e6b4457f3163e4b&oe=60BD950F) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1486 "2021-06-02T21:33:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > “Unvaccinated people” – [you know … morons.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/517cfcb5434328a1086b7d5f65adf6f3/tumblr_ocy9d6bVfn1rbvhgao5_500.gifv) > > ETA: for some reason, I hit a paywall clicking from here but not from Facebook. Weird. I posted that link and quoted from it a few days ago… > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s not over. Especially not for the unvaccinated. > > > ### [The unseen covid-19 risk for unvaccinated people](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2021/covid-rates-unvaccinated-people/) > > > > With the adjustment for vaccination, the national death rate is roughly the same as it was two months ago, while the adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. > > > > > … > > > Unvaccinated people are getting the wrong message, experts said. > > > > > > “They think it’s safe to take off the mask. It’s not,” said Lynn Goldman, dean of the Milken Institute School of Public Health at George Washington University. “It looks like fewer numbers, looks like it’s getting better, but it’s not necessarily better for those who aren’t vaccinated.” > > > > > > The adjusted rates in several states show the pandemic is spreading as fast among the unvaccinated as it did during the winter surge. Maine, Colorado, Michigan and Washington state all have covid-19 case spikes among the unvaccinated, with adjusted rates about double the adjusted national rate. The adjusted rates of Minnesota, Oregon and Pennsylvania are slightly lower. > > > … > > > > > > Coronavirus vaccines are virtually perfect in preventing deaths, so the decline in deaths nationally hides the steady covid death rate among unvaccinated people. > > > … ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1487 "2021-06-02T21:37:09Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I posted that link and quoted from it a few days ago… Doubly weird: Discourse didn’t notify me that the link already existed. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1488 "2021-06-02T23:32:26Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Can you explain this? [He deliberately misled the nation about masks early on](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/dr-fauci-admits-feds-initially-misled-about-face-masks-wanted-to-make-sure-health-care-workers-had-enough/ar-BB15A4kO) and your cite shows the Chinese warned him about it. "The U.S. Surgeon General said in a Feb. 29 tweet, “Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!” Fauci was US surgeon General? Oh, no. It was someone else, Jerome Adams: “Masks do not work for the general public,” he told host Margaret Brennan. Adams suggested instead that Americans “stay safe by washing your hands, by covering your cough [and] by staying home if you’re sick.” Trump has publicly dismissed advice to wear a face mask and [was seen publicly donning a mask for the first time](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mask-finally-coronavirus_n_5f0a31c3c5b67a80bc085460) only this week. Adams has heaped praise on Trump’s actions amid the pandemic. In an interview in March, the surgeon general [dodged questions about U.S. coronavirus testing capability](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/surgeon-general-dodges-coronavirus-question-praises-trump-health_n_5e65382cc5b6670e72f9cb4a) and praised Trump’s health. “The president … sleeps less than I do, and he’s healthier than what I am,”[the surgeon general said](https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1236669894747398144?s=20). > **[Surgeon General Jerome Adams Tries To Walk Back Past Bad Mask Advice](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/surgeon-general-jerome-adams-defends-face-masks-coronavirus_n_5f0b62cec5b63a72c3436d4e)** > > Adams compared his claims about the ineffectiveness of wearing masks to treating asthma with cigarettes. And that was his defense. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1489 "2021-06-03T01:04:47Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Doubly weird: Discourse didn’t notify me that the link already existed. Interesting. I didn’t know it did that. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1490 "2021-06-03T01:11:43Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > I posted that link and quoted from it a few days ago… > > Doubly weird: Discourse didn’t notify me that the link already existed. No surprise there at all. @ThelmaLou’s link was to the WaPo article. @Skywatcher posted a link to tumbr that, after extracting advertising revenue and spying on everyone who clicks it, redirects towards the WaPo article. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1491 "2021-06-03T02:01:51Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > @Skywatcher posted a link to tumbr… That’s an animated gif from _Blazing Saddles_. You know which scene. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1492 "2021-06-03T02:01:52Z")
Scrolled quite a ways up and didn’t see this posted - apologies if it was (heh - further up) or elsewhere. Can inbred troglydytes be enticed by free beer and sports tickets to get their shit together with vaccination? > **[Free beer, other new incentives for Biden's 'vaccine sprint'](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-government-and-politics-health-8168ae1c68ca955b620082d862c911ad)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Dangling everything from sports tickets to a free beer, President Joe Biden is looking for that extra something — anything — that will get people to roll up their sleeves for COVID-19 shots when the promise of a life-saving vaccine... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=74)