# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1493 "2021-06-03T02:22:59Z")
New Jersey was already giving out free beer with vaccinations. Don’t know if it worked or not. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1494 "2021-06-03T02:43:10Z")
> [@SingleMalt](#): > > An unfortunate consequence of the lack of a coordinated effort to ramp up production and distribution of protective equipment. It has nothing to do with that. We could have and eventually did make our own masks but that was delayed because he said it not only wouldn’t work but would actually make things worse. He knew what he originally said was bullshit. > [@SingleMalt](#): > > Of course, Dr. Fauci explains this in that same referenced article. He didn’t explain it, he made excuses for it. What he did was deliberate and discouraged people from doing the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1495 "2021-06-03T03:23:55Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Can you explain this? [He deliberately misled the nation about masks early on](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/dr-fauci-admits-feds-initially-misled-about-face-masks-wanted-to-make-sure-health-care-workers-had-enough/ar-BB15A4kO) and your cite shows the Chinese warned him about it. > > As the coronavirus pandemic engulfed the world last spring, Science magazine quoted a top Chinese health official saying that the United States and other Western nations were making a “big mistake” by not telling people to mask up. Please don’t hijack this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1496 "2021-06-03T04:22:55Z")
172,426,494 total cases 3,706,563 dead 155,060,668 recovered In the US: 34,154,305 total cases 611,020 dead 27,986,511 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 171,937,637 total cases > 3,575,782 dead > 154,419,808 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,136,738 total cases > 610,436 dead > 27,940,918 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1497 "2021-06-03T20:32:30Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > Please don’t hijack this thread. Moderating: Please don’t junior mod. Next time, just report the hijack. This is only a mod note, not a warning. To others participating in this hijack: Please drop it. It’s always a good idea to start a new thread if you feel the subject requires further discussion. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1498 "2021-06-03T20:56:13Z")
Oops, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1499 "2021-06-03T20:58:13Z")
No worries. Heat of the moment and all that. I know you’ll remember for next time. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1500 "2021-06-03T21:31:05Z")
Nice modding ! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 🏆 And responding @Tfletch1👏🏼 ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1501 "2021-06-04T01:22:25Z")
If you’re that reasonable, it’s going to take a while to score a troll skin for your mod boots. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1502 "2021-06-04T05:01:31Z")
172,910,966 total cases 3,717,320 dead 155,622,721 recovered In the US: 34,174,752 total cases 611,611 dead 28,025,575 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 172,426,494 total cases > 3,706,563 dead > 155,060,668 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,154,305 total cases > 611,020 dead > 27,986,511 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1503 "2021-06-04T06:31:15Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Can inbred troglydytes be enticed by free beer and sports tickets to get their shit together with vaccination? I’d be tickled pink if I could but get my daily free Krispy Kreme doughnut for the rest of this year. But alas, there are no Krispy Kreme shops anywhere near where I live. Perhaps if I write to their corporate HQ, they’ll send me a huge carton full? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1504 "2021-06-04T21:21:30Z")
This has probably been covered but I don’t remember it: what’s the reason for the difference in Worldometer’s count (currently 612,061) and the CDC (593,377)? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1505 "2021-06-04T23:14:25Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > This has probably been covered but I don’t remember it: what’s the reason for the difference in Worldometer’s count (currently 612,061) and the CDC (593,377)? Just different methodologies, none of which are fully transparent to the best of my knowledge - for example Johns Hopkins splits the difference and lists 596,969 dead in the U.S. as of this post. There have been articles on this in months past, but the takeaway then was that they simply were accessing slightly different sources and collating in a different manner. So the CDC might be relying on more cautious, fully vetted updates while the Worldometer might be grabbing initial data that hasn’t been yet been as fully confirmed as of the minute they grab it. They might also be updating numbers on a different timescale. Whatever the reason though, best to use them as very rough approximations. It seems the great bulk of experts think most countries, even Western ones, are under-counting to a greater or lesser extent. Usually inadvertently, sometimes purposefully. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1506 "2021-06-05T00:25:10Z")
From today’s Oregon Health Authority Coronavirus Update email: > Blockquote > There isn’t one pandemic in Oregon,” said Director Allen. “There are two: One is a pandemic that is dying out among people who are vaccinated. And the other is a pandemic that is raging as fiercely as ever among people who are unvaccinated.” > Referring to data captured between March 1 and May 31 of this year, Dr. Sidelinger pointed out that **98% of COVID-19 cases and 94% of COVID-19 associated deaths were among those not fully vaccinated.** ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1507 "2021-06-05T02:06:33Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Referring to data captured between March 1 and May 31 of this year, Dr. Sidelinger pointed out that **98% of COVID-19 cases and 94% of COVID-19 associated deaths were among those not fully vaccinated.** Is there anything to worry about that the vaccinated percent of deaths is 6% while the percent of cases from vaccinated is only 2%? I was reading that if you were vaccinated and got COVID, you would have a more mild case and the symptoms would not be as severe. If that was the case, I would have expected the percent of deaths in vaccinated people to be even lower than the 2% of total cases. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1508 "2021-06-05T02:21:01Z")
I would guess that’s because the elderly have much higher rates of vaccination than younger cohorts, and are also far more likely to die if they get covid. I wouldn’t worry about it unless I saw an age distribution that didn’t support that hypothesis. It’s hard to over estimate the impact of age on covid mortality. (The elderly were also slightly less likely to contract covid prior to vaccination, due to mostly not having to work in public places. At least, according to my state’s data, which I’ve been tracking obsessively.) ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1509 "2021-06-05T04:55:56Z")
Thanks Tamerlane. Yeah, when it gets that high the numbers are just approximations. I was just wondering why the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1510 "2021-06-05T05:07:54Z")
173,328,934 total cases 3,727,657 dead 156,075,401 recovered In the US: 34,192,023156,075,401 total cases 612,240 dead 28,054,995 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 172,910,966 total cases > 3,717,320 dead > 155,622,721 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,174,752 total cases > 611,611 dead > 28,025,575 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1511 "2021-06-06T04:43:48Z")
Hawaii passed 500 deaths this week. The count stands at 502 as of today. All restrictions on interisland travel will be lifted on June 15. You won’t have to take a Covid test or show you’re vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1512 "2021-06-06T05:23:41Z")
173,725,873 total cases 3,736,367 dead 156,601,284 recovered In the US: 34,204,374 total cases 612,203 dead 28,103,491 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 173,328,934 total cases > 3,727,657 dead > 156,075,401 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,192,023 total cases > 612,240 dead > 28,054,995 recovered [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=75)