# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1513 "2021-06-06T05:26:29Z")
Somehow 37 fewer people are dead today than were yesterday. Good news but what’s the secret treatment? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1514 "2021-06-06T12:05:23Z")
> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#): > > Good news but what’s the secret treatment? They’re feeling much better now. [/monty python] ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1516 "2021-06-07T16:04:32Z")
I know that Alameda County, California, just changed way it counted COVID deaths, reducing their number. Some cases that previously were assigned COVID had their cause of death changed: > **[Why Alameda County's COVID death toll dropped 25%](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Alameda-County-COVID-death-toll-update-methodology-16229819.php)** > > The county updated its dashboard. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1517 "2021-06-07T17:24:04Z")
From that link: > The county previously included any person who died while infected with the virus in the total COVID-19 deaths for the jurisdiction. Case in point: People who died in a car crashes and tested positive for COVID were counted in the county’s previous system even though they were not included in the state toll. I’d heard rumors of such a thing, but generally discounted it as conspiracy theory nonsense. Is this actually widespread? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1518 "2021-06-07T17:29:59Z")
Cause of death is not a “clean” piece of data. And I’m told that typically, a death certificate lists more than one cause. Yes, there were errors counting covid deaths in both directions, especially early in the pandemic. In general, more covid deaths were missed than non-covid deaths were counted, but there were certainly errors both ways. Most states have mostly cleaned up the data by now, and if you want to investigate this stuff you should download it now, not just add to the stuff you downloaded a year ago. Although… The excess covid deaths are easier to clean up than the missing ones, because missing ones don’t leave a lot of documentation, whereas excess ones would have a death certificate that says, for instance, both “auto accident” and “covid”, marking it as worth investigating. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1519 "2021-06-07T21:52:27Z")
Do they really test a mangled body for COVID? That seems hard to believe, especially early on when tests were scarce. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1520 "2021-06-07T22:07:38Z")
I assume it was someone who had previously tested positive for COVID that was in an auto accident. I obliquely am aware of someone who was positive for COVID that died of natural causes whose death certificate did not list COVID at all. There were lots of things wrong with him that were the primary cause, but apparently the person who wrote the death certificate thought that they were by themselves enough to cause the death, even though they had been chronic things for years. It’s almost certain that COVID was the trigger that finally killed him, but it didn’t do anything specific that warranted mention on the death certificate apparently. I also saw a death certificate in a new client’s paperwork that simply said “Covid-19” and nothing else at all. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1521 "2021-06-07T23:11:25Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > Do they really test a mangled body for COVID? The information obtained is potentially valuable. What if hypoxemia caused the driver to run into something? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1522 "2021-06-08T04:28:16Z")
174,376,256 total cases 3,751,988 dead 157,638,535 recovered In the US: 34,227,237 total cases 612,701 dead 28,177,659 recovered ~~Yesterday~~ Two days ago’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 173,328,934 total cases > 3,727,657 dead > 156,075,401 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,192,023156,075,401 total cases > 612,240 dead > 28,054,995 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1523 "2021-06-09T03:44:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 34,192,023156,075,401 total cases Wow! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1524 "2021-06-09T03:50:39Z")
I’m lucky-I’ve only caught it sixteen times so far. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1525 "2021-06-09T05:08:13Z")
174,749,069 total cases 3,762,883 dead 158,161,346 recovered In the US: 34,242,866 total cases 613,052 dead 28,220,863 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 174,376,256 total cases > 3,751,988 dead > 157,638,535 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,227,237 total cases > 612,701 dead > 28,177,659 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1526 "2021-06-09T10:45:45Z")
Here’s some news: > **[Ex-Wisconsin pharmacist gets prison for ruining vaccine](https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-coronavirus-pandemic-health-239d647dfbed86316f19305678dd033f)** > > MILWAUKEE (AP) — A former pharmacist in Wisconsin who purposefully ruined more than 500 doses of COVID-19 vaccine was sentenced to three years in prison on Tuesday. Three years in prison. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1527 "2021-06-09T12:24:18Z")
From that link: > … > Brandenburg is an admitted conspiracy theorist who believes he is a prophet and vaccines are a product of the devil. He also professed a belief that the Earth is flat and the 9/11 terrorist attacks were faked. > > Brandenburg also secretly substituted saline for flu vaccine that he was mandated to receive and persuaded several co-workers to secretly swap saline for their flu vaccine as well, according to court filings. Dear God. These people aren’t always just harmless cranks in tinfoil hats. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1528 "2021-06-09T15:50:39Z")
We caught just this one guy. 18 months into this situation, and with the benefit of knowledge about how functionally insane about one half of our country is, how many thousand more do you suppose there are in the supply and distribution chain for vaccines and in the medical care industry? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1529 "2021-06-09T15:55:18Z")
Which was why I was delighted to feel like crap the day after my second Pfizer. ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1530 "2021-06-09T17:45:02Z")
> **[Napa County records first death of fully vaccinated person from COVID-19](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-07/napa-county-records-first-fully-vacinated-person-covid-death)** > > The woman died in early June from an infection tied to the Alpha variant first detected in the U.K. She was older than 65 and had underlying health conditions, officials said. I believe this question was recently asked. I don’t think this is that shocking. It was bound to happen as no vaccine is 100%. Just evidence that COVID is still real and we can’t just completely abandon everything we’ve learned. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1531 "2021-06-09T19:28:44Z")
In better news: [AP source: US to buy 500M Pfizer vaccines to share globally (apnews.com)](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-coronavirus-pandemic-g-7-summit-health-government-and-politics-7009b0d0e8df4897d1827909611c2155) The US and Pfizer have agreed to make 500M doses of vaccine available to Covax, 200M to be delivered this year and the other 300M in the first half of 2022. Hopefully, we will see more deals like this with various vaccines and various wealthy countries paying the cost. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1532 "2021-06-09T21:07:09Z")
In even betterer news: > **[Hey Washingtonians! Get A Vaccine. Smoke A Joint.](https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/06/09/1004752026/washington-offers-marijuana-cannabis-vaccine)** > > In Washington, adults can now walk away from their COVID-19 vaccine appointment with a free, pre-rolled joint. Other states are also offering incentives to try to convince people to get the shot. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1533 "2021-06-10T01:23:32Z")
That could be worth getting a second shot, LOL! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=76)