# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1554 "2021-06-11T19:24:18Z")
This frustrates me. Case loads are heading down, but there are a bunch of variants of concern popping up on our shores. This seems like a time when it would be very cost-effective to keep a close eye on caseloads, and watch or for upticks. I guess the risk is that summertime might notice an increase and who knows, there might be political pressure to reinstate some restrictions. Or be more prescriptive about vaccines. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1555 "2021-06-12T04:59:56Z")
176,048,700 total cases 3,800,762 dead 159,626,478 recovered In the US: 34,306,446 total cases 614,738 dead 28,346,324 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 175,622,971 total cases > 3,788,831 dead > 159,172,266 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,275,783 total cases > 614,007 dead > 28,278,394 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1556 "2021-06-13T06:10:09Z")
176,422,387 total cases 3,810,952 dead 160,396,300 recovered In the US: 34,315,873 total cases 614,955 dead 28,381,623 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 176,048,700 total cases > 3,800,762 dead > 159,626,478 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,306,446 total cases > 614,738 dead > 28,346,324 recovered ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1557 "2021-06-14T04:22:57Z")
> **[Coronavirus Updates: Covid News: Judge Dismisses Houston Hospital Workers’...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/13/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask)** > > Experts worry a steep drop in testing will making tracking U.S. outbreaks harder. Moscow orders a shutdown and Haiti faces its worst outbreak. Judge dismisses lawsuit and upholds the hospital’s right to require employee vaccinations, noting among other points that state law doesn’t extend job protection in most cases. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1558 "2021-06-14T04:27:11Z")
176,722,290 total cases 3,819,621 dead 160,767,466 recovered In the US: 34,321,158 total cases 615,053 dead 28,400,132 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 176,422,387 total cases > 3,810,952 dead > 160,396,300 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,315,873 total cases > 614,955 dead > 28,381,623 recovered ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1559 "2021-06-14T14:25:12Z")
> **[As COVID-19 cases wane, vaccine-lagging areas still see risk](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-states-trend-declining-infection-8df5fe34e1c4c6e475da4010438a250f)** > > New COVID-19 cases are declining across most of the country, even in some states with vaccine-hesitant populations. > … > Just eight states — Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Missouri, Nevada, Texas, Utah and Wyoming — have seen their seven-day rolling averages for infection rates rise from two weeks earlier, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. All of them except Hawaii have recorded vaccination rates that are lower than the US average of 43% fully vaccinated, according to the U.S Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. > > The 10 states with the fewest new cases per capita over that time frame all have fully vaccinated rates above the national average. > > Medical experts said a host of factors is playing into the drop in case counts across the country, including vaccines, natural immunity from exposure to the virus, warmer weather and people spending less time indoors. > > But Dr. Leana Wen, a public health professor at George Washington University, said she is concerned that the natural immunity of those who have been exposed to coronavirus may soon wane. And she’s worried that states with low vaccination rates could become hot spots. > … > > Ko said it is important that even those exposed to the disease get vaccinated because natural immunity does not last as long as vaccine immunity and the levels of antibodies are lower. > > Wen said research strongly suggests that vaccinations provide a benefit to those who already have some antibodies due to infection. > > “I think it is a fallacy that many people have that recovery means they no longer need to be vaccinated,” she said. In a few days we’ll pass the Summer Solstice and days will start getting shorter. I DREAD winter this year… for so many reasons. We could pretty much whup this thing by winter, except for the slackers, non-believers, and skeptics. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1560 "2021-06-14T14:49:54Z")
> Just eight states — Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Missouri, Nevada, Texas, Utah and Wyoming — have seen their seven-day rolling averages for infection rates rise from two weeks earlier, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The last tweet from the Arkansas governor said that only 40% of eligible Arkansans have taken at least one shot (using CDC numbers). (Current data seems to be 32% fully vaccinated.) He even brought up a Razorback game that would have 11,000 fans, and how statistically thousands would be unvaccinated. In my own home town (and surrounding area), the mass vaccine clinics have stopped, but I don’t know the numbers. I myself got ill (not with COVID) and had to delay my second shot. By the time I got mine, I just went to the hospital, and only saw two other people come in. That said, I have been hearing people on Facebook saying they chose to get their shots at Walmart. Still, that clinic is rather small, being the size of one of those “mini stores” inside of Walmart. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1561 "2021-06-14T18:23:32Z")
Novivax looks good (not sure what is different than the January announcement above). It is based on different tech than either mRNA or the J&J vaccine, and can use a regular freezer. 2 doses. They claim to be able to produce 150m doses/month by the end of the year. > **[We have another highly effective COVID vaccine, based on different tech](https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/we-have-another-highly-effective-covid-vaccine-based-on-different-tech/)** > > While not needed for the US, it should help with the global vaccine push. Brian ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1562 "2021-06-14T20:17:03Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Novivax looks good (not sure what is different than the January announcement above). > It is based on different tech than either mRNA or the J&J vaccine, and can use a regular freezer. Just thought I’d mention that, although the Pfizer vaccine is still shipped in a special cold shipping container, it can now be stored in a regular freezer for 2 weeks and in a refrigerator for up to a month. These updates were approved by the FDA in February and May. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1563 "2021-06-14T21:47:43Z")
I think one thing that is different is that this study was based (at least partially) in the US, and the US FDA generally requires that for a new medical thing to be approved in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1564 "2021-06-15T04:10:11Z")
177,033,919 total cases 3,827,748 dead 161,226,410 recovered In the US: 34,335,239 total cases 615,232 dead 28,436,981 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 176,722,290 total cases > 3,819,621 dead > 160,767,466 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,321,158 total cases > 615,053 dead > 28,400,132 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1565 "2021-06-15T17:17:48Z")
Hawaii is now 55% fully vaccinated. The governor says all restrictions will be removed if we can make it to 70%. Today all interisland travel restrictions are lifted. Don’t have to take a Covid test or show a vaccination card. ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1566 "2021-06-15T19:30:56Z")
Breaking (broken?) news from the Cleveland Clinic: > **[No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Cleveland Clinic study suggests](https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx)** > > The study findings reveal that individuals with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection do not get additional benefits from vaccination, indicating that COVID-19 vaccines should be prioritized to individuals without prior infection. The study is currently... I think the above is an example of broken news. Here’s another article with the caveats: > **[Cleveland Clinic study: In vaccine shortages, previously uninfected should be...](https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2021/06/09/cleveland-clinic-covid-study-vaccine-shortages-previously-uninfected-should-prioritized/7617472002/)** > > In places where vaccines are hard to come by, the study argues that doses should first go to people who haven’t contracted the virus in the past. I’ve already heard arguments on other social media: “Well, I’ve tested positive so according to the Cleveland Clinic I don’t have to get the vaccine AND I DON’T HAVE TO WEAR A MASK ANYMORE.” There isn’t a sigh that is heavy enough. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1567 "2021-06-15T20:31:12Z")
Yeah, it’s interesting that it says people who have had Covid don’t get “additional benefits” from the vaccine, but what they mean is that it may not matter for immunity purposes. One additional benefit that I’ve heard about, but I haven’t checked to see if studies have backed it up, is that some people with long Covid have reported doing better after getting vaccinated. That’s one of the things that, according to a podcast I listened to, suggests that there may be more than one cause for long Covid – some people may have residual infection, where they haven’t completely cleared the virus from their systems, and the vaccine helps them do that, and some people may have residual effects from their immune systems going into overdrive, so they are not helped by the vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1568 "2021-06-15T20:53:58Z")
Some disappointing news on the treatment (rather than vaccination) front: > **[AstraZeneca’s antibody cocktail fails to protect against coronavirus: Study](https://www.politico.eu/article/study-astrazenecas-antibody-cocktail-fails-to-protect-against-coronavirus/)** > > The European Commission has signed deals for antibody treatments against COVID-19. > A clinical trial looking at an antibody therapy against COVID-19 developed by British pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca yielded negative results, the company [announced](https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/update-on-azd7442-storm-chaser-trial.html) on Tuesday. > > AZD7442 — a combination of two different monoclonal antibodies — didn’t achieve a statistically significant reduction in the risk of symptomatic COVID-19 after exposure to the virus, failing the primary study objective. j ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1569 "2021-06-16T05:45:18Z")
177,417,315 total cases 3,838,600 dead 161,865,489 recovered In the US: 34,352,185 total cases 615,717 dead 28,578,701 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 177,033,919 total cases > 3,827,748 dead > 161,226,410 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,335,239 total cases > 615,232 dead > 28,436,981 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1570 "2021-06-16T15:21:11Z")
🤔 > **[More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in US by Christmas 2019](https://apnews.com/article/more-evidence-covid-in-us-by-christmas-2019-11346afc5e18eee81ebcf35d9e6caee2)** > > A new analysis of blood samples from 24,000 Americans taken early last year is the latest and largest study to suggest that the new coronavirus popped up in the U.S. in December 2019 — weeks before cases were first recognized by health officials. > [@](#): > > A new analysis of blood samples from 24,000 Americans taken early last year is the latest and largest study to suggest that the new coronavirus popped up in the U.S. in December 2019 — weeks before cases were first recognized by health officials. > > The analysis is not definitive, and some experts remain skeptical, but federal health officials are increasingly accepting a timeline in which small numbers of COVID-19 infections may have occurred in the U.S. before the world ever became aware of a dangerous new virus erupting in China. > > “The studies are pretty consistent,” said Natalie Thornburg of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. > > “There was probably very rare and sporadic cases here earlier than we were aware of. But it was not widespread and didn’t become widespread until late February,” said Thornburg, principal investigator of the CDC’s respiratory virus immunology team. > > Such results underscore the need for countries to work together and identify newly emerging viruses as quickly and collaboratively as possible, she added. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1571 "2021-06-17T03:20:53Z")
This is what I’ve been saying, people! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1572 "2021-06-17T04:05:58Z")
177,813,953 total cases 3,848,876 dead 162,317,440 recovered In the US: 34,365,985 total cases 616,150 dead 28,616,495 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 177,417,315 total cases > 3,838,600 dead > 161,865,489 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,352,185 total cases > 615,717 dead > 28,578,701 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1573 "2021-06-18T05:02:04Z")
178,203,523 total cases 3,857,939 dead 162,710,235 recovered In the US: 34,377,592 total cases 616,440 dead 28,641,439 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 177,813,953 total cases > 3,848,876 dead > 162,317,440 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,365,985 total cases > 616,150 dead > 28,616,495 recovered [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=78)