# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1574 "2021-06-19T05:05:44Z")
178,603,683 total cases 3,866,967 dead 163,124,786 recovered In the US: 34,393,269 total cases 616,920 dead 28,675,929 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 178,203,523 total cases > 3,857,939 dead > 162,710,235 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,377,592 total cases > 616,440 dead > 28,641,439 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1575 "2021-06-19T18:01:44Z")
the trend is now below 400 deaths per day compared to last month trend ending under 600. | Day | Date | Daily adj | 7 day avg | prev wk D | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | wed | 9-Jun | 442 | 383 | -142 | | thu | 10-Jun | 557 | 379 | -34 | | fri | 11-Jun | 596 | 395 | 112 | | sat | 12-Jun | 318 | 386 | -60 | | sun | 13-Jun | 88 | 381 | -38 | | mon | 14-Jun | 311 | 380 | -1 | | tue | 15-Jun | 353 | 381 | 2 | | wed | 16-Jun | 433 | 379 | -9 | | thu | 17-Jun | 290 | 341 | -267 | | fri | 18-Jun | 480 | 325 | -116 | ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1576 "2021-06-20T00:58:08Z")
Trouble ahead. For the unvaccinated. > **[Expect the Unexpected From the Delta Variant](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/06/expect-unexpected-delta-variant/619245/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%2BTheAtlantic%2B%28The%2BAtlantic%2B-%2BMaster%2BFeed%29)** > > There’s no way of knowing how bad things will get in the U.S. In a way, that’s a luxury. > Delta has gotten so much attention because it has the most troubling collection of traits yet: It is markedly more transmissible than Alpha, can sicken a large proportion of people who have had only one dose of a vaccine ([though not those who have had two](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.22.21257658v1)), and may even cause [more severe disease](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/992981/10_June_2021_Risk_assessment_for_SARS-CoV-2_variant_DELTA.pdf). All of this is enough to be a warning, especially as Delta is now responsible for [10 percent of U.S. cases](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/06/cdc-delta-variant-now-10-us-covid-19-cases) and rising. But as with Alpha, which was also suspected to be more severe, how the variant ends up behaving in the real world will depend on more than its biology. It will also depend on how we—the virus’s hosts—choose to behave, how many more people we vaccinate, and, to some extent, how lucky we get. > > … > > Experts agree that vaccines are the best way to stop Delta. Data from the U.K. suggest that [one dose of the Pfizer vaccine](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.22.21257658v1) offers only 34 percent protection against the variant, while two doses provide 88 percent. Large swaths of the U.S., however, are still struggling to get people to take any doses at all. A [recent _Washington Post_ analysis](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/14/covid-cases-vaccination-rates/) found more than 100 counties where less than 20 percent of the population has been vaccinated. “Whatever cracks that we have in our program for getting communities vaccinated, that’s what Delta is going to exploit,” Martin said. > > The U.S. at least has an ample supply of vaccines to fill those cracks; the challenge is a social one. In countries without enough doses to stop it, Delta [portends far more trouble](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/28/opinion/covid-vaccine-variants.html). In some ways, it’s a luxury to say that Delta’s eventual effects in the U.S. are unpredictable. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1577 "2021-06-20T06:14:17Z")
178,964,181 total cases 3,875,656 dead 163,494,411 recovered In the US: 34,401,712 total cases 617,083 dead 28,694,843 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 178,603,683 total cases > 3,866,967 dead > 163,124,786 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,393,269 total cases > 616,920 dead > 28,675,929 recovered ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1578 "2021-06-20T19:25:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > people who have had only one dose of a vaccine I live in Iowa and I got the one shot J&J. This concerns me due to the Delta variant showing up just south of my state and… no one seems to be talking about how effective the J&J vax is against it. I figured I’d be getting a booster shot sometime this Fall but now I’m wondering if I should ask my PA if I should get a shot or 2 of Moderna or Pfizer now (way past 2 months on the J&J). ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1579 "2021-06-20T19:43:24Z")
The number of new daily infections is as low in Illinois as it was in the very beginning of the pandemic in mid-March 2020. And statewide we’re at something like 50% vaxxed. Jeez, if we were at 70, 80% or more it might be like this thing didn’t even exist. But I don’t see us getting there anytime soon, even in a relatively vax friendly neck of the woods. (Compared to other necks of other woods.) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1580 "2021-06-20T23:12:17Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > no one seems to be talking about how effective the J&J vax is against it. As best as i can tell, this is because no one has done that study. Not because it’s known to not work. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1581 "2021-06-21T01:31:05Z")
[Buffalo Bills’ Cole Beasley says he’d rather retire than get Covid-19 vaccine](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/19/us/cole-beasley-nfl-retire-covid-vaccine/index.html) > [@](#): > > “I’ll be out in the public. If your scared of me then steer clear, or get vaccinated. Point. Blank. Period. I may die of covid, but I’d rather die actually living.” Pure selfishness. No NFL players has died of COVID. The problem is that they can transmit it to someone who doesn’t have the good fortune to know what this Beauty-and-the-Beast Gaston looks like and stay clear… ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1582 "2021-06-21T01:33:21Z")
I don’t understand this notion that getting the vaccine isn’t living. Is he that unsure of himself? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1583 "2021-06-21T01:52:30Z")
Did you mean to post this in the covidiots thread? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1584 "2021-06-21T02:16:24Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Did you mean to post this in the covidiots thread? It’s today’s news. And given the long-term health effects of his current job, being fired from it isn’t likely to make his life shorter. Anyway, I try not to call people idiots. Personal preference - not a criticism of other dopers. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1585 "2021-06-21T04:56:24Z")
179,259,564 total cases 3,882,107 dead 163,827,464 recovered In the US: 34,406,001 total cases 617,166 dead 28,711,315 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 178,964,181 total cases > 3,875,656 dead > 163,494,411 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,401,712 total cases > 617,083 dead > 28,694,843 recovered ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1586 "2021-06-21T12:23:44Z")
In better news: [https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-other-asian-countries-vaccinate-against-covid-19-faster-than-ever-11624186800](https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-other-asian-countries-vaccinate-against-covid-19-faster-than-ever-11624186800) > SEOUL—Covid-19 vaccine rollouts have accelerated in many Asia-Pacific countries in recent weeks, overtaking the pace of doses being administered in the U.S. and other Western nations > … > By the end of the month, about a quarter of the world’s population will have received a single Covid-19 shot, according to a recent [Goldman Sachs](https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/GS) report, up from an earlier projection of 17%. About half of the world could be vaccinated by November, Goldman Sachs estimates. Mostly, the worldwide supply of vaccine has increased substantially. Outside of China countries mentioned were mostly using the same vaccines as the west, Pfizer, AZ, Moderna, J&J. The article didn’t mention Novavax, but i wonder if that factored into the Goldman Sachs estimates. The Novavax studies looked really good, and they can probably ramp up production. (Was the Novavax study cited here? If not, it should be. Excellent efficacy, even against the current variants of concern. And it’s the traditional antigen+adjuvant style of vaccine, so people with medical concerns around the nRNA or viral vector vaccines have a new option.) ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1587 "2021-06-21T14:16:24Z")
This gives me a shred of hope (vs real data that might help me be less concerned): “Surgeon General Vivek Murthy previously told CNN there isn’t enough data to indicate the effectiveness of Johnson & Johnson’s one-dose vaccine in regard to the Delta variant, but it has shown it can help prevent hospitalizations and deaths when people are infected with other strains.” > **[Unvaccinated Americans are at risk of a possibly more dangerous Covid-19...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/21/us/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html)** > > Some states are making great strides in vaccinating their residents against Covid-19, but the ones that are not may soon be contending with a more transmissible variant, experts say. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1588 "2021-06-22T04:45:30Z")
I’m sure everyone here will be shocked to learn that [kids birthday parties could have helped to spread COVID.](https://arizonarepublic-az.newsmemory.com/?token=9abd79f6d24f58f1fa71bcdf0f9c368f&cnum=cf5f07f9-9a77-4704-a737-35dc23ca1a49&fod=1111111-0&selDate=20210621&licenseType=paid_subscriber&) Kids’ birthday parties may be partly to blame for increased coronavirus transmission rates, a new study shows. The study, published in JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday, gathered private health insurance data from 2.9 million U.S. households from Jan. 1 to Nov. 8, 2020. In counties with high rates of transmission, households were 31% more likely to test positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 within two weeks after a birthday. In households where a child’s birthday occurred, there were 15.8 more positive coronavirus tests per 10,000 people than in households that didn’t. When adults had a birthday, there were just 5.8 more positive tests in the following two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1589 "2021-06-22T04:56:18Z")
179,553,288 total cases 3,888,842 dead 164,259,162 recovered In the US: 34,419,838 total cases 617,463 dead 28,767,507 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 179,259,564 total cases > 3,882,107 dead > 163,827,464 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,406,001 total cases > 617,166 dead > 28,711,315 recovered ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1590 "2021-06-22T11:25:52Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I’m sure everyone here will be shocked to learn that [kids birthday parties could have helped to spread COVID.](https://arizonarepublic-az.newsmemory.com/?token=9abd79f6d24f58f1fa71bcdf0f9c368f&cnum=cf5f07f9-9a77-4704-a737-35dc23ca1a49&fod=1111111-0&selDate=20210621&licenseType=paid_subscriber&) What annoys me is that over the weekend I read an article that said that “birthdays” contributed to covid cases. Said article a. did not mention the study they were obliquely referencing b. never used the words “party” or “gathering” or in any other way even hinted that celebatory get-togethers were responsible, leading to the strange impression that they were implying that simply having a birthday within the past couple weeks increased one’s odds of catching covid… ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1591 "2021-06-22T12:32:56Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I’m sure everyone here will be shocked to learn that [kids birthday parties could have helped to spread COVID.](https://arizonarepublic-az.newsmemory.com/?token=9abd79f6d24f58f1fa71bcdf0f9c368f&cnum=cf5f07f9-9a77-4704-a737-35dc23ca1a49&fod=1111111-0&selDate=20210621&licenseType=paid_subscriber&) Your link doesn’t work for me – just takes me to the Arizona page of USA Today, I think. Here’s a link to the JAMA article [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2781306](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2781306) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1592 "2021-06-22T14:12:46Z")
> **[Fauci Warns Dangerous Delta Variant Is The Greatest Threat To U.S. COVID Efforts](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/22/1008859705/delta-variant-coronavirus-unvaccinated-u-s-covid-surge)** > > More contagious than other variants, and maybe more likely to cause severe disease, Delta is spreading so fast in the U.S. it could cause another surge this summer or fall, according to new research. A headline with the word “could” in it always seems weak to me. But this is worth becoming informed about. > … > The Delta variant apparently already accounts for at least 14% of all new infections, according to the research [analysis posted online Monday](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.20.21259195v1)of more than 242,000 infections nationwide over the last six months. > > … > > All the vaccines authorized for use in the U.S. appear, [in general,](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/15/1006382264/a-3rd-dose-of-covid-vaccines-may-boost-immunity-for-transplant-recipients) to provide powerful protection against all the variants, including Delta. But the rapid spread of the variants is still raising concern because of the large number of people who remain unvaccinated. > … ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1593 "2021-06-22T15:11:59Z")
> **[In the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte threatens to jail those who refuse shots....](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/world/philippines-duterte-jail-vaccines.html)** > > The country’s president called the current severe outbreak “a national emergency” in a TV interview that included an expletive-laced rant against those who chose not to get a vaccine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=79)