# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1614 "2021-06-26T06:28:43Z")
181,190,692 total cases 3,925,285 dead 165,778,491 recovered In the US: 34,482,672 total cases 619,152 dead 28,897,460 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 180,776,268 total cases > 3,916,246 dead > 165,426,389 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,464,956 total cases > 618,685 dead > 28,871,914 recovered ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1615 "2021-06-26T12:48:55Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > That’s not what your quote says, but also from the article: There is some risk to fully vaccinated people From what I understand, the vaccines don’t make you immune from infection. The virus can still infect you, but the vaccination gives your body a huge headstart in fighting the virus by creating antibodies which can snap into action quickly. Vaccinated people who get infected typically are asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. Often the infection is discovered through routine testing rather than the person feeling ill. A vaccinated person can still end up in the hospital or die, but the percentage is very low. My interpretation of the recommendation is that they were doing it to prevent serious complications to the unvaccinated people by reducing any possible transmission from vaccinated people. But certainly the possibility exists for vaccinated people to get COVID (or any virus) and die, so wearing a mask always provides a preventative benefit anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1616 "2021-06-26T14:07:46Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > Ah yes, the old “automobiles aren’t perfectly safe, therefore we shouldn’t take any precautions for things more safe than them” argument. My point is that you (perhaps inadvertently) presented yourself as being extremely risk-averse, when in point of fact the situation is not that clear-cut. You are selective as to what risks you take, based not on logic, but on your personal preferences. If your risk-aversion was based on logic, you would be tackling the biggest risks first, such as automobiles. ---
**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1617 "2021-06-26T15:20:37Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Math question: 150 / 18000 ≠ 0, true, but it does = .083% of deaths Nitpick: That would not be .083% but .83% - a bit under one percent. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1618 "2021-06-26T15:48:25Z")
Moderating: You’ve gone way off topic for this thread, which is meant for breaking news related specifically to the COVID-19 pandemic. Please take your arguments to another forum if you wish to continue them. Not a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1619 "2021-06-26T16:34:52Z")
Thanks—corrections always appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1620 "2021-06-26T17:29:34Z")
I’m not sure if this should go here or in the Covidiot thread, but [16 people got COVID-19 after country-western dance near Show Low, organizers say.](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2021/06/25/covid-19-outbreak-show-low-arizona-dance/5344517001/) (Chances are fair that link is pay-walled, but I don’t have any way to know for sure.) "At least 16 of about 70 people who attended a country-western dance in the Show Low area on June 11 have since developed COVID-19, event leaders say. Most of those who contracted COVID-19 after attending the dance were not vaccinated, but some were, said Ken Baker, president of the White Mountain Rim Rompers Square Dance Club, a nonprofit group that hosted the dance. Baker started hearing reports of COVID-19 illness from attendees around June 16, he said." "State health officials say they are aware of at least four potential COVID-19 outbreaks in Arizona involving 10 or more COVID-19 cases that began May 1 or later. " ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1621 "2021-06-27T04:06:01Z")
181,550,029 total cases 3,932,768 dead 166,074,548 recovered In the US: 34,490,134 total cases 619,343 dead 28,912,906 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 181,190,692 total cases > 3,925,285 dead > 165,778,491 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,482,672 total cases > 619,152 dead > 28,897,460 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1622 "2021-06-28T04:13:27Z")
181,865,998 total cases 3,938,862 dead 166,385,636 recovered In the US: 34,494,677 total cases 619,424 dead 28,927,335 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 181,550,029 total cases > 3,932,768 dead > 166,074,548 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,490,134 total cases > 619,343 dead > 28,912,906 recovered Fewer than 100 dead in the US today. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1623 "2021-06-28T04:13:54Z")
whoops ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1624 "2021-06-28T13:32:17Z")
> **[Six out of 30 people who attended Sydney party didn't contract COVID-19. They...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/vaccinated-attendees-west-hoxton-birthday-party-avoid-covid-19/100249612)** > > The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 infected every attendee at a West Hoxton birthday party except for the six people who were vaccinated, the NSW Government reveals. Reassuring to those who are vaccinated. The Delta variant infected 100% of the unvaccinated attendees and 0% of the vaccinated ones. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1625 "2021-06-28T16:48:54Z")
Aye; Australia is doing a bit of hot-spot-stomping right now: > **[Australia battles several clusters in new pandemic phase](https://apnews.com/article/australia-coronavirus-pandemic-pandemics-health-da2d5c336da6ff7ac32f7a46fac603fa)** > > CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia was battling to contain several COVID-19 clusters around the country on Monday in what some experts have described as the nation’s most dangerous stage of the pandemic since the earliest days. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1626 "2021-06-28T16:51:02Z")
Honk Kong is banning air travel with the UK for the moment: > **[Hong Kong to ban passenger flights from UK to curb virus](https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-uk-flight-ban-coronavirus-70af6fb3c74ca4f8ac34be31318b9817)** > > HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong says it will ban all passenger flights from the U.K. starting Thursday as it seeks to curb the spread of new variants of the coronavirus. It said in a statement Monday that the U.K. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1627 "2021-06-28T16:52:18Z")
Thailand is also fighting a surge in cases: > **[Bangkok, 9 provinces restrict movements to curb rising cases](https://apnews.com/article/bangkok-business-coronavirus-pandemic-health-f8ade99d1a516b44f11e82e0c9f6e14a)** > > BANGKOK (AP) — Faced with a sharp rise in coronavirus cases, the Thai capital on Sunday announced a ban on indoor dining and gatherings of more than 20 people, in addition to the closure of construction sites and the sealing off of workers' quarters... ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1628 "2021-06-28T16:59:39Z")
One thing I’m surprised to find out is that Australia is really slow with the vaccine rollout. From that article: > [@](#): > > But the new clusters have highlighted the nation’s slow vaccine rollout with only 5% of the population fully vaccinated. After doing such a good job with the shutdowns and contact tracing, they really slacked off on getting vaccinated. They could have been ramping that up this whole time. With the rest of the world opening up and pandemic fatigue setting in, Australia could be in for some terrible outbreaks if 95% of their population is unvaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1629 "2021-06-28T18:22:24Z")
I would guess that in Australia, like most everywhere else, the limiting factor is obtaining an adequate supply of vaccine. I don’t think it’s all that hard to get it into willing arms, once the vaccine is available. And I would guess they spent their covid-fighting dollars on containment, and not on bidding-the-most for earliest access to vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1630 "2021-06-28T19:09:51Z")
I’ve read reader comments suggesting that the Australian government thought it could stop COVID without the expense of buying vaccines. I don’t have a way to assess this, though. ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1631 "2021-06-28T22:17:21Z")
No, at least not as official policy. There’s always been the knowledge that as the world begins opening up we need to have a vaccinated population or else will take a risk with every visitor every day forever. Initial cause of the slow take-up was I think because of not wanting to be part of the scrum of nations with genuinely critical needs wanting the vaccines when these became available at the start of the year [at that time we regularly had 0 community cases]. There was also a lot invested [emotionally and $] in an Australian-developed vaccine, which seems to have worked well but has other medical issues. Another factor is that the Federal govt was controlling distribution, and they’ve done it poorly. Critical targets [aged care, frontline workers etc] were identified but have not been properly done. Our Fed government is generally poor at delivery, and most health action is delivered by the states, but they were being side-stepped and have had issues about getting supply. We’ve also picked up the vaccine hesitancy thing, and that has not been really well countered. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1632 "2021-06-29T04:00:53Z")
182,194,401 total cases 3,945,334 dead 166,758,134 recovered In the US: 34,511,636 total cases 619,595 dead 28,962,849 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 181,865,998 total cases > 3,938,862 dead > 166,385,636 recovered > > In the US: > > 34,494,677 total cases > 619,424 dead > 28,927,335 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1633 "2021-06-29T06:53:38Z")
> [@Banksiaman](#): > > There was also a lot invested [emotionally and $] in an Australian-developed vaccine, which seems to have worked well but has other medical issues. Just to clarify this poorly worded sentence before anyone asks, the University of Queensland was working on a promising vaccine but testing showed it gave false positive readings for HIV for anyone taking it. There was a very reluctant decision made to not progress with it, although I believe work continues to fix the issue. In the context of the reply, it meant that a hoped-for local vaccine with no supply issues had to be abandoned at an advanced stage. More backstory [here](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-11/how-the-uq-covid-19-vaccine-induces-false-positive-hiv-results/12975048) if interested. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=81)