# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1834 "2021-07-24T04:22:31Z")
194,054,146 total cases 4,160,217 dead 176,137,862 recovered In the US: 35,283,075 total cases 626,658 dead recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 193,425,474 total cases > 4,151,725 dead > 175,741,160 recovered > > In the US: > > 35,213,594 total cases > 626,172 dead > 29,478,173 recovered On 1 July 2021 the US had 17,765 new cases. On 12 July there were 21,715 new cases. Today there were 67,485. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1835 "2021-07-24T04:32:43Z")
> [@Tfletch1](#): > > So he goes to an NHL game in a stadium (in FL, one of the early states to experience a Delta surge) full of thousands of screaming fans, none of them wearing masks including his cohort, and he’s surprised he contracted Covid? The guy’s FIL is undergoing treatment for a serious illness on top of that. As people have already said in multiple threads, people clearly don’t know how to do risk assessment. It doesn’t surprise me at all. As he said, the CDC said it was okay. So he believed them. That’s why it’s so ridiculous that they said it was okay for the vaccinated not to wear masks. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1836 "2021-07-24T10:50:36Z")
I have to say that the messaging at the federal level is really starting to piss me off. Their guidance on masks made sense before the delta variant, but certainly not now. Local governors need to start taking matters into their own hands, and they’re going to be just as dumb if they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1837 "2021-07-24T13:43:59Z")
It certainly is a pleasure to wake up this Saturday morning to a post of yours that _downplays alarmist language_. I hope others will take note. 😉 Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1838 "2021-07-24T13:48:09Z")
Some people in Sydney are not happy about the lockdown: > **[Thousands protest lockdown in Sydney, several arrested](https://apnews.com/article/health-sydney-arrests-coronavirus-pandemic-ff50971322d56dc9ce9ec92ea7e940c1)** > > SYDNEY (AP) — Thousands of people took to the streets of Sydney and other Australian cities on Saturday to protest lockdown restrictions amid another surge in cases, and police made several arrests after crowds broke through barriers and threw... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1839 "2021-07-24T13:48:34Z")
Vietnam is putting the capitol, Hanoi, on lockdown: > **[Vietnam locks down capital Hanoi for 15 days as cases rise](https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-vietnam-hanoi-5e2c207377ca730318b8d2e167caaac9)** > > HANOI, Vietnam (AP) — Vietnam announced a 15-day lockdown in the capital Hanoi starting Saturday as a coronavirus surge spread from the southern Mekong Delta region. The lockdown order, issued late Friday night, bans the gathering of more than two... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1840 "2021-07-24T13:51:46Z")
Many states are seeing more than a thousand new cases per day right now; Florida is seeing more than 10,000. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1841 "2021-07-24T14:09:49Z")
Glad I could make your day. 😉 I do suspect that efficacy of the vaccines has been reduced somewhat; I just want to see a lot more hard data before I accept that it’s quite that bad. And even if the infection rate is higher, if it’s keeping most of these people out of the hospital, the vaccines are doing their job for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1842 "2021-07-24T14:39:02Z")
I agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1843 "2021-07-24T15:23:35Z")
> [@ratatoskK](#): > > Also note, 67% of Cambridge residents are fully vaccinated. I was reading something recently about some counties here in Colorado that have a very high vaccination rate. Even in such areas, the un-vaccinated tend to cluster together, so that there can isolated outbreaks even in cities or counties that have high vaccination rates overall. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1844 "2021-07-24T18:28:32Z")
Cambridge positives include quite a lot of vaccinated people but Cambridge tests a lot of vaccinated people, so that has something to do with the high amount of positivity in vaccinated people. My impression is that vaccinated people generally don’t get tested, because “vaccinated.” However, a lot of vaccinated people in Cambridge are required to be tested, so we see more positives in vaccinated people. Which is not really good news at all, since that means in places where frequent testing of vaccinated people does not happen, they probably have more cases than reported. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1845 "2021-07-24T19:09:35Z")
Perhaps separate police holding areas for vaxxed and unvaxxed? ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1846 "2021-07-24T19:11:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > if it’s keeping most of these people out of the hospital, the vaccines are doing their job for the most part. I agree with you too. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1847 "2021-07-24T19:20:28Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Vietnam is putting the capitol, Hanoi, on lockdown: Huh. That says a lot. Vietnam was lightly affected last year. I did not know about the caseload this year. That just emphasizes the viciousness of the Dealta variant. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1848 "2021-07-24T21:46:21Z")
Here’s some news: > **[States scale back virus reporting just as cases surge](https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-f9c58c50f565e707be9bedfa9a82319e)** > > Several states scaled back their reporting on COVID-19 this month just as cases across the country tripled with the delta variant of the virus spreading quickly among the unvaccinated. > [@](#): > > The shift to weekly instead of daily reporting in Florida, Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota marked a notable shift during a pandemic in which coronavirus dashboards have become a staple for Americans closely tracking case counts and trends to navigate a crisis that has killed more than 600,000 people in the U.S. > > In Nebraska, the state actually stopped reporting on the virus altogether for two weeks after Gov. Pete Ricketts declared an end to the official virus emergency, forcing news reporters to file public records requests or turn to national websites that track state data to learn about COVID statistics. The state backtracked two weeks later and came up with a weekly site that provides some basic numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1849 "2021-07-24T22:11:11Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Which is not really good news at all, since that means in places where frequent testing of vaccinated people does not happen, they probably have more cases than reported. Well, good news for vaccinated, bad news for unvaccinated. Good news for vaccinated because they’re not experiencing symptoms. Bad news for unvaccinated because the vaccinated may unknowingly be carriers and make unvaccinated people sick. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1850 "2021-07-24T22:24:22Z")
A very interesting video that’s worth a look. It explains why there’s such a discrepancy between the UK and Israeli data on Pfizer vaccine efficacy, and if he’s right, it means that the longer the wait between the first and second jab, the better (up to a point, obviously). Israelis waited three weeks between jabs - just like we did in the US. In the UK, they waited at least twice as long -up to 11 weeks in some cases, which could be the reason for the gap. If true, this has tremendous implications in the US, as it means that US Pfizer recipients could experience a drop off that is similar to what Israel experienced. If you want to cut to the chase where he discusses the differences between Israel and UK data, you can jump in at around 7:40 in the video. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wNbs4LCgrcY/maxresdefault.jpg "Big US implications from Israel") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbs4LCgrcY) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1851 "2021-07-24T22:47:38Z")
Thanks for pursuing this theme. That is a very good video and, as you said, well worth a look. I did start at 7:30. If it’s true that many vaccinated Americans will get asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic COVID because of the shortness of time between the two doses (as was done in Israel), he points out that the dire implication of this is that because the US has so many unvaccinated people, those people are going to be much more exposed to the virus from vaccinated individuals than, say, in the UK where vaccinated people do not seem to be picking up the virus. IOW the unvaccinated will be exposed from other unvaccinated people, as well as from the vaccinated. The bottom line (to restate) is that vaccinated people in the USA present a grave danger to the unvaccinated even though they themselves will likely only have no symptoms or mild symptoms and are mostly safe from serious/life-threatening disease. He predicts a huge uptick in cases and hospitalizations among the unvaccinated, and we are, in fact, seeing that. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1852 "2021-07-24T22:57:39Z")
Dr. Campbell’s videos are good. He’s technically a retired “nurse” trainer, but I think he’s considered a fully-credentialed doctor. He strikes me as extremely well-trained and educated, and up on the latest research. I also highly recommend a YT channel called MedCram, which has lectures from Dr. Roger Seheult, a pulmonary specialist in Southern California. Beyond that, I read Google Scholar and type in random search terms. It’s important that we arm ourselves with information. The challenge, always, is finding credible information. I stop whatever I’m doing and listen anytime they’re interviewing former FDA commish Scott Gottlieb and also the University of Minnesota professor Dr. Michael Osterholm - check out his site CIDRAP (U of Minn) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1853 "2021-07-24T23:27:20Z")
We knew house cats could get it, now we know that snwoleopards can catch covid: > **[Unvaccinated snow leopard at San Diego Zoo catches COVID-19](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-health-travel-environment-and-nature-coronavirus-pandemic-5a999c2e524e59a23b9db3a35b64412b)** > > SAN DIEGO (AP) — An unvaccinated snow leopard at the San Diego Zoo has contracted COVID-19. Caretakers noticed that Ramil, a 9-year-old male snow leopard, had a cough and runny nose on Thursday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=92)