# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 92
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1854 "2021-07-25T00:51:54Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It explains why there’s such a discrepancy between the UK and Israeli data on Pfizer vaccine efficacy, and if he’s right, it means that the longer the wait between the first and second jab, the better (up to a point, obviously). I’ve been wondering if that might be the case. I’m older, and get sicker from “colds” than most people, and I’m wondering about the implications for me. Of course, even the Israeli data is showing good efficacy against serious illness, and I’m definitely questioning the ethics of using up even more doses of vaccine in the US when so much of the world desperately needs it. On the other hand, my elderly mom is immune compromised, and although she’s vaccinated, I’m dubious of her level of protection. And i certainly don’t want to infect her. I may switch to wearing a respirator when i visit her again. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1855 "2021-07-25T01:12:25Z")
There’s plenty of vaccine supply here - thanks to those who refuse. The only consideration I can see in getting a booster is if you’re younger and have a stronger immune system, in which case a booster might actually over-stimulate your immune system, causing more severe side effects. I would consider wearing an n-95 mask, and have her do the same. I would also have both you and her take daily dose of vitamin D3 and C. Vitamin D3 plays an integral role in priming the immune system. I wouldn’t take the megadoses that you get from physicians; I’d consider a daily dose (no more than 5000 IUs). Once you have a few weeks of daily vitamin D3, you can perhaps skip a day or two to make sure you don’t overdo it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1856 "2021-07-25T01:28:33Z")
We both take a daily vitamin d supplement. She was anyway. I was sometimes. But that looked effective against covid early on, and it’s cheap, and the doses that were suggested to avoid covid are very safe. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1857 "2021-07-25T01:36:28Z")
To be clear, vitamin d3 won’t necessarily stop an infection, but there is growing evidence that it can prevent severe illness. To make an analogy, the immune system is like an army. An army needs support. It needs resources. It needs funding to pay for the army bases, the gear, the weaponry, and the basic training that will produce millions of soldiers (think nutrition and antibodies). Immune systems also need a little bit of combat training and experience, which is what your immune system gets in childhood and any other time in your life when you catch a new cold. The army that actually goes to Afghanistan and Iraq and gets experience against hostile fire is probably more effective than the army that just trains at Camp Pendleton but never fights in the field. Same with your immune system, which is what the vaccines help the immune system do. Other vaccines and more recent exposure to more harmless pathogens might also help prime the immune system in this regard. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1858 "2021-07-25T04:09:55Z")
194,411,130 total cases 4,168,466 dead 176,471,028 recovered In the US: 35,184,671 total cases 626,713 dead 29,507,123 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 194,054,146 total cases > 4,160,217 dead > 176,137,862 recovered > > In the US: > > 35,283,075 total cases > 626,658 dead > recovered 🤦‍♂️ I cannot believe I left out the US recovered stat last night; mea culpa. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1859 "2021-07-25T04:12:52Z")
We seem to have a glitch in the matrix. There’s 98,404 _fewer_ total cases today than yesterday. And 28,923 fewer than July 22nd. We’ve seen adjustments before, but nearly 100k cases disappearing is massive. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1860 "2021-07-25T12:36:37Z")
WoM posts all adjustments; you just have to scroll down past the numbers: > [@](#): > > Updates > > - **36,779 new cases** and **151 new deaths** in **[the United States](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)**. NOTE: On July 23, 2020, the Puerto Rico Department of Health has stopped reporting antibody (or “serology”) cases - which were classified as “Suspect Cases.” Up to November 5, 2020, Puerto Rico had classified antibody detected cases as “Probable Cases.” [[source](http://www.salud.gov.pr/Estadisticas-Registros-y-Publicaciones/Estadsticas%20Casos%20Positivos%20COVID19%20Noviembre%202020/Informe%20Casos%20Positivos%20COVID-19%20(06%20noviembre%202020).pdf)] On November 6, 2020, Puerto Rico switched from using antibody tests to antigen tests to identify probable cases. [[source](http://www.salud.gov.pr/Estadisticas-Registros-y-Publicaciones/Estadsticas%20Casos%20Positivos%20COVID19%20Noviembre%202020/Informe%20Casos%20Positivos%20COVID-19%20(07%20noviembre%202020).pdf)] > > Worldometer, which up to July 23 ,2021 had included in the cumulative total case count for Puerto Rico all three reported categories of cases, has now matched the time series to the new criteria by removing probable cases defined via antibody from April 24, 2020 onward [[source](http://www.salud.gov.pr/Estadisticas-Registros-y-Publicaciones/Pages/COVID-19.aspx)] and suspect cases defined via antibody from November 6, 2020, effectively - and for consistency - removing all antibody-determined cases in view of the fact that they will no longer be reported. > > This change caused a drop of 137,262 cases in Puerto Rico. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1861 "2021-07-25T14:32:13Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > We seem to have a glitch in the matrix. There’s 98,404 _fewer_ total cases today than yesterday. And 28,923 fewer than July 22nd. We’ve seen adjustments before, but nearly 100k cases disappearing is massive. Many states/counties are no longer posting daily stats. They’ll post once or twice a week but different states post on different days of the week. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1862 "2021-07-25T15:53:58Z")
OK, thanks. I’ll look for explanations on WO next time. Really screws up my covid spreadsheet though 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1863 "2021-07-25T16:18:40Z")
Surprising no one reading this thread: > **[Fauci says US headed in 'wrong direction' on coronavirus](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-anthony-fauci-masks-70585010748808ce2284cfc19b608e47)** > > Dr. Anthony Fauci says the United States is in an “unnecessary predicament” of soaring COVID-19 cases fueled by unvaccinated Americans and the virulent delta variant. > [@](#): > > The United States is in an ``unnecessary predicament” of soaring COVID-19 cases fueled by unvaccinated Americans and the virulent delta variant, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert said Sunday. > > "We’re going in the wrong direction,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, describing himself as "very frustrated.” > > He said recommending that the vaccinated wear masks is ``under active consideration” by the government’s leading public health officials. Also, booster shots may be suggested for people with suppressed immune systems who have been vaccinated, Fauci said. > > Fauci, who also serves President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that he has taken part in conversations about altering the mask guidelines. > [@](#): > > Nearly 163 million people, or 49% of the eligible U.S. population, are vaccinated, according to CDC data. > > “This is an issue predominantly among the unvaccinated, which is the reason why we’re out there, practically pleading with the unvaccinated people to go out and get vaccinated,” Fauci said. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1864 "2021-07-25T19:56:44Z")
New cases in Hawaii have numbered in the 200s for several days now, and they expect that will continue into October. A month ago, there were about 40 or 50 new cases a day. In Thailand, they’re (finally) just starting to roll out mass vaccinations. But the main deal is Sinovac for the first shot, Astrazeneca for the second. I’ve read warnings against doing this, ut that’s the way the government has decided to go. A married couple we know got their first, Sinovac shot last week. They figure by now, any vaccine is better than no vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Chatterbox1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/57b2e6/32.png) [@Chatterbox1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chatterbox1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1865 "2021-07-25T22:25:01Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > But the main deal is Sinovac for the first shot, Astrazeneca for the second. I’ve read warnings against doing this, ut that’s the way the government has decided to go I’m curious what sorts of places you’ve read that. Obviously, that particular combination isn’t being much studied or reported by Western scientists or media. Or do you mean more generic “mixing vaccines” warnings? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1866 "2021-07-25T22:45:48Z")
> [@Chatterbox1](#): > > I’m curious what sorts of places you’ve read that. Obviously, that particular combination isn’t being much studied or reported by Western scientists or media. Or do you mean more generic “mixing vaccines” warnings? [CNN report](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/13/asia/thailand-covid-vaccine-mix-intl-hnk/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1867 "2021-07-25T22:46:53Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > We seem to have a glitch in the matrix. There’s 98,404 _fewer_ total cases today than yesterday. And 28,923 fewer than July 22nd. We’ve seen adjustments before, but nearly 100k cases disappearing is massive. Oh jeez. I totally misread your post. Nevermind… ---
**Author:** ![Chatterbox1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/57b2e6/32.png) [@Chatterbox1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chatterbox1)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1868 "2021-07-25T23:05:32Z")
Well, it certainly isn’t well tested but you notice that the only “warnings” in that article are from a single opposition party member and some Facebook posts. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1869 "2021-07-25T23:47:20Z")
Still no change in mask guidance - should have been done 3 weeks ago. CDC also blew it when it decided to end the tracking of breakthrough infections. The US has no ability to do its own research on vaccine efficacy; we’re relying on the UK and Israel now. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1870 "2021-07-26T04:42:57Z")
194,835,316 total cases 4,175,129 dead 176,779,229 recovered In the US: 35,199,465 total cases 626,762 dead 29,511,909 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 194,411,130 total cases > 4,168,466 dead > 176,471,028 recovered > > In the US: > > 35,184,671 total cases > 626,713 dead > 29,507,123 recovered ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1871 "2021-07-26T14:21:01Z")
Numbers continue to be messed up: only 14.7k cases yesterday and get this: _49_ deaths yesterday, the only 2 digit daily deaths number since early March 2020; the daily average is five times that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1872 "2021-07-26T18:22:20Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Numbers continue to be messed up: There seem to be quite a few states who have decided that the problem is now over, so they are not reporting, or have changed reporting to weekly instead of daily. I guess that’s one way to fix things; Just declare the pandemic over by fiat, even when case numbers are starting to surge again. For their next trick, they will go down to the sea, and command the ocean tides to henceforth stop. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1873 "2021-07-26T21:07:38Z")
We don’t know that that’s a problem yet. It’s just as likely Worldometer is aggregating things in a weird way [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=91) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=93)