# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 96
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1934 "2021-07-30T17:01:55Z")
I’ve not checked in a while, but I seem to recall last year that Japan hadn’t really locked down that hard but that they had managed to control the spread with things like masking and shutting down restaurants and bars early in the evening. That’s probably going to be woefully insufficient with the delta variant now taking over. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1935 "2021-07-30T17:04:58Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Their case rate has gone over 10,000 daily cases for the first time. It’s hard to believe the Olympics aren’t the major reason for the spike no matter what the organizers say. The delta variant is the **major** reason for the spike, same as in all the other countries that are experiencing a spike. Twenty-seven cases out of 10,000 is not the major driver. I’m sure the Olympics aren’t helping and IMO it was a mistake to hold them, because it diverts attention and resources from a building crisis. But it does no good to pretend that Japan wouldn’t be in bad shape if only they didn’t have the Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1936 "2021-07-30T18:15:52Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > The delta variant is the **major** reason for the spike, same as in all the other countries that are experiencing a spike. Twenty-seven cases out of 10,000 is not the major driver. I was thinking more about all the infrastructure required to run the Olympics. All the mass transit, food deliveries, police, etc. Lots more people having to do a lot more stuff to keep the Olympics running. I’m not sure that all the workers at large are included in those 27 cases they list since they aren’t part of the Olympics proper. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1937 "2021-07-30T18:18:53Z")
That doesn’t surprise me. When I was shooting a wedding down in Miami Beach back in early May, the other photographer and videographers were from Canada. They had gotten their initial dose of Pfizer back in early May, but the second dose was scheduled 2-3 months out, as they were trying to get initial doses to as many people as possible. They just popped into a local Walgreen or CVS, who asked no questions, and gave them the second dose without an issue. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1938 "2021-07-30T19:04:25Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Let’s face it… Bodies could pile up in the streets, and as long as they’re not blocking the driveways of these folks they’ll happily deny what is happening. It’s not too early to start repositioning snow plows from northern snow states down south to keep the roadways passable. 😯 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1939 "2021-07-30T19:05:31Z")
Governors of certain states will probably put legislation in place that will make it illegal to acknowledge bodies in the streets. Problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1940 "2021-07-30T19:09:26Z")
[This](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/us/missouri-covid-vaccine-secret.html) is interesting: # Some in Missouri Seek Covid-19 Shots in Secret, Doctor Says > Even as the more contagious Delta variant drives a surge in infections, the Covid-19 vaccination effort has become so polarized in Missouri that some people are trying to get shots in secret to avoid conflicts with friends and relatives, a doctor there said. If it gets more shots in more arms, that’s good. But still… what the hell is wrong with humanity? Link is to NYT which could be paywalled but usually not for COVID stories. * * * > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Governors of certain states will probably put legislation in place that will make it illegal to acknowledge bodies in the streets. Problem solved! Or they’ll legislate that dead COVID victims in the street be referred to as “snow”. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1941 "2021-07-30T20:22:07Z")
I’m really curious to find out how Pfizer and Moderna efficacy data compare in Canada and the United States. If/When the data come out, there could be noticeable differences, and if I had to guess, any differences would point to more durable immunity north of the border. Canada went a route similar to that of the UK by delaying second doses 2-3 months; Israel and the U.S. followed the regimen advised by Pfizer. The added benefit of going ‘for some immunity for everyone’ is that, despite their comparatively late start in getting their vaccine program off the ground, Canada has now far surpassed the U.S. in terms of vaccination rates across the country. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1942 "2021-07-30T20:37:12Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Canada has now far surpassed the U.S. in terms of vaccination rates across the country. To be fair, that is in part because of relatively low politicization of the Pandemic; All parties right, left, center are mostly on board with following medical advice. Of course, there are always some on the fringes who are desperate to blame Trudeau for anything and everything, and simply hand-wave Canada’s excellent performance on vaccinations as being due to our “famously compliant population” as if that was some kind of insult. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1943 "2021-07-30T22:08:21Z")
“I should have gotten the damn vaccine.” Aye; he should have. > **[Father of five told family ‘I should have gotten the damn vaccine’ before...](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/565629-father-of-five-told-family-i-should-have-gotten-the-damn-vaccine-before/)** > > Michael Freedy, a Las Vegas father of five, died from the coronavirus Thursday after sending his fiancee a text expressing his regret at not getting the COVID-19 vaccine, FOX5 report… Here’s a cautionary tale to share when needed, eh. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1944 "2021-07-30T23:00:20Z")
I’m seeing more and more of this type of story. Maybe THAT will get people’s attention. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1945 "2021-07-31T01:18:22Z")
We’re gonna need to get people’s attention quick, before things get outta hand again: > **[Florida coronavirus cases jump 50% as surge continues](https://apnews.com/article/health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-0ed4928ff9dcf54d8422269a2ef174ce)** > > FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — Florida’s coronavirus cases jumped 50% this week, the state Health Department reported Friday, continuing a six-week surge that has seen it responsible for 1 in 5 new infections nationally, becoming the outbreak's... I’m pretty sure that the US is going to go over 100,000 new cases today. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1946 "2021-07-31T02:16:40Z")
This is the leaked CDC slideshow, which is a good read - check out slides 15 and 21. > **[Read: Internal CDC document on breakthrough infections](https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/)** This shit is more transmissible than smallpox and the 1918 flu. Slide 21 says in big bold red: “universal masking is essential to reduce transmission of the Delta variant”, yet curiously, that’s not exactly their message to the public. Again, probably because, as I’ve been saying, CDC is behind. They’re still trying to catch up on the data, and they will probably never fully get caught up. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1947 "2021-07-31T02:18:50Z")
Scroll up; posted 23 hours ago. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1948 "2021-07-31T02:47:34Z")
Aye, captain. Missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1949 "2021-07-31T04:40:41Z")
198,031,336 total cases 4,224,346 dead 178,925,467 recovered In the US: 35,688,506 total cases 629,064 dead 29,652,038 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 197,385,409 total cases > 4,214,933 dead > 178,537,192 recovered > > In the US: > > 35,584,272 total cases > 628,492 dead > 29,626,754 recovered A few hours ago I wrote: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m pretty sure that the US is going to go over 100,000 new cases today. We got close: 99,470 new cases in the US today. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1950 "2021-07-31T04:42:38Z")
Oh; there’s this, too: > **[Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others](https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-d9504519a8ae081f785ca012b5ef84d1)** > > In another big setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of... > [@](#): > > In another dispiriting setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not get the shots. > > Health officials on Friday released details of [that research](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w), which was key in this week’s decision by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to recommend that vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the delta variant is fueling infection surges. The authors said the findings suggest that the CDC’s mask guidance should be expanded to include the entire country, even outside of hot spots. > > The findings have the potential to upend past thinking about how the disease is spread. Previously, vaccinated people who got infected were thought to have low levels of virus and to be unlikely to pass it to others. But the new data shows that is not the case with the delta variant. > > The outbreak in Provincetown — a seaside tourist spot on Cape Cod in the county with Massachusetts’ highest vaccination rate — has so far included more than 900 cases. About three-quarters of them were people who were fully vaccinated. > > Travis Dagenais, who was among the many vaccinated people infected, said “throwing caution to the wind” and partying in crowds for long nights over the July Fourth holiday was a mistake in hindsight. > > “The dominant public messaging has been that the vaccine means a return to normal,” the 35-year-old Boston resident said Thursday. “Unfortunately, I’ve now learned it’s a few steps toward normal, not the zero-to-sixty that we seem to have undertaken.” ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1951 "2021-07-31T04:47:57Z")
> **[Biden orders tough new vaccination rules for federal workers](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-joe-biden-business-health-travel-a1670ffa08f1f2eab42c675d99f1d9ad)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday announced sweeping new pandemic requirements aimed at boosting vaccination rates for millions of federal workers and contractors as he lamented the “American tragedy” of rising-yet-preventable deaths... I didn’t see if this was already posted, but I think this is great. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1952 "2021-07-31T05:13:48Z")
Disney is requiring all US employees to get vaccinated. Walmart is requiring all headquarters staff and regional staff to be vaccinated. Walmart and Sam’s Club are putting back mask requirements for employees. Also, Costco will keep seniors’ hours after announcing they would be dropping them. > **[Walt Disney Company Will Require U.S. Employees to Get Vaccinated](https://variety.com/2021/biz/news/walt-disney-company-vaccines-1235031753/)** > > The Walt Disney Company is requiring that their salaried and non-union U.S. employees get vaccinated before returning to work. “At The Walt Disney Company, the safety and well-being of our employee… [Walmart, Disney Get Tough on Unvaccinated Staff Amid Delta Surge](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-30/walmart-requires-headquarters-staff-to-get-vaccinated-by-oct-4) > **[Walmart, Target, Lowe's, Kohl's, Publix update mask policies for employees;...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/shopping/2021/07/30/walmart-mask-policy-sams-club-masks-required-employees-covid/5392867001/)** > > Walmart, Sam's Club and Target will require employees to wear masks in COVID hot spots even if vaccinated. Customers are encouraged to wear them. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1953 "2021-07-31T05:18:25Z")
Very nice. Douchey has already passed bills saying that businesses couldn’t mandate masks or vaccines. I love watching trumpers backpedal and Douchey is going to have to start, most of the biggest employers in AZ are ignoring him and his anti-public safety stance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=95) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=97)