# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2021 Breaking News **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [January 1, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428 "2021-01-01T08:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1954 "2021-07-31T05:56:30Z")
More news. It’s estimated that over 125K fully-vaccinated people have tested positive for Covid. The estimated deaths are less accounted for since only some states have those records, but NBC news estimated the deaths at 1,400 for fully-vaccinated people. Health officials note that this is the expected rate, not vaccine failure since the vaccines are not 100% effective. > **[Breakthrough Covid cases: Data shows how many vaccinated Americans have...](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/breakthrough-covid-cases-least-125-000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-n1275500)** > > The 125,682 "breakthrough" cases in 38 states represent less than .08 percent of the 164.2 million-plus people fully vaccinated since January. > [@](#): > > At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died, according to data collected by NBC News. > . . . > But the total number of breakthrough cases is likely higher than 125,683, since nine states, including Pennsylvania and Missouri, did not provide any information, while 11, like Covid hotspot Florida, did not provide death and hospitalization totals. Four states gave death and hospitalization numbers, but not the full tally of cases. > > And vaccinated adults who have breakthrough cases but show no symptoms could be missing from the data altogether, say officials. > > Health officials continue to caution that breakthrough cases [were expected, extremely rare and not a sign of vaccine failure](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/breakthrough-infections-mean-covid-vaccines-rcna1478). Vaccination rates are rising, particularly in the states hardest hit by the pandemic. > [@](#): > > The number of first vaccine doses, or new people getting their first shots, is up 31% compared with a week ago and rising in nearly every state. > . . . > Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows nearly 800,000 shots were recorded nationwide on Sunday, the highest single-day total in weeks. The seven-day average of reported vaccinations, including first and second shots, has risen by 16% over the past week to 615,000 shots per day as of Thursday. > **[U.S. Covid vaccination rates rise as Americans in hard-hit states rush to get...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/us-covid-vaccine-rates-delta-variant.html)** > > States with the worst Covid outbreaks are those seeing the largest jumps in vaccination rates across the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1955 "2021-07-31T09:51:10Z")
Unless I’m missing something, the US did go over 100,000 cases. 38,688,506 - 35,584,272 = 104,234. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1956 "2021-07-31T13:14:57Z")
Perhaps a controversial number, but Dr. Gottlieb usually gives solid analysis. He’s one of the experts I regularly pay attention to. He says we might have up to 1 million new cases per day. He’s consistently said all along that we’re probably only catching 5 to 10% of the new cases with the Delta variant, which seemed controversial a few weeks ago, but given the new data on transmissibility, it seems he was correct. > **[Dr. Scott Gottlieb estimates up to 1 million Americans infected with Covid...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/dr-scott-gottlieb-estimates-up-to-1-million-americans-infected-with-covid-daily-as-delta-spreads.html)** > > "I wouldn't be surprised if, on the whole, we're infecting up to a million people a day right now," Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC on Friday. On the more positive side of the ledger, he also seems to think that this is the reason we may be closer to the end of this wave than we think, the assumption being that with so many new cases, we will get closer to achieving a level of herd immunity - at least in the short run. > **[Gottlieb: US will be through delta wave in 2 or 3 weeks](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/565191-gottlieb-us-will-be-through-delta-wave-in-2-or-3-weeks/)** > > Former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Scott Gottlieb predicted early Wednesday that the United States could get through the worst of the delta variant surge of the coronavirus … ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1957 "2021-07-31T13:51:21Z")
Speculation. Opinion. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1958 "2021-07-31T14:46:50Z")
Well, that’s what a lot of this is anyway-- speculation & opinion. I for one, am glad to read something a bit optimistic. The future will bring what the future brings. Is having a little bone to gnaw on in the meantime so bad? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1959 "2021-07-31T15:22:22Z")
True, but his point is that we’re missing a lot of data at the federal level, and it’s hard to see how he’s not right about that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1960 "2021-07-31T15:45:56Z")
My numbers should be considered “informal”. I mean, they are the actual numbers _at the time I posted_ but my “day” isn’t always exactly 24 hours. I try and post at 9pm Pacific but occasionally I don’t post until 11pm or later. The 99,470 figure came from WoM, since they do maintain a strict 24-hour cycle on their “days”. Sorry for the confusion; hope that clears things up. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1961 "2021-07-31T17:09:11Z")
Taiwan, once again, a success story. Two things that have resulted in a dramatic reversal in the right direction: 1. Mandatory masking in all indoor places. 2. No indoor dining or activities. What are the odds of that here, though? lol > **[Why Taiwan Is Beating COVID-19 – Again](https://thediplomat.com/2021/07/why-taiwan-is-beating-covid-19-again/)** > > How did Taiwan suppress this wave, even as Australia, Vietnam, and Singapore are struggling with an uptick of the virus? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1962 "2021-07-31T18:09:05Z")
Here’s a another interesting case: a family reunion involving 29 family members who stayed in contact over the course of 10 days. Out of 29 individuals, 21 were infected, including 13 who were fully vaccinated. Some of the fully vaccinated ended up in the hospital - doesn’t say how many. > **['It didn't seem real': Family reunion leads to multiple breakthrough COVID-19...](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/real-family-reunion-leads-to-breakthrough-covid-cases/283-d1fc3b02-3a9e-4897-b384-ff235c8eb6cd)** > > A Portland woman said 21 family members either tested positive for COVID or showed symptoms of the virus. Thirteen of them were fully vaccinated. This probably doesn’t address the question of one-time limited encounters with infected people, but it makes clear that prolonged contact makes transmission highly likely, even among the vaccinated. And some of these will be at risk for hospitalization. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1963 "2021-07-31T23:48:29Z")
[Chrissie Hinds] Hey, uh…. way to ‘duh’, Florida. [/Chrissie Hinds] > **[Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-health-business-arts-and-entertainment-florida-01fa89e1d9491ab075c5deb689af1ea8)** > > Federal health officials say Florida has reported more than 21,600 new cases of COVID-19, the state’s highest one-day total since the start of the pandemic. > [@](#): > > Florida reported 21,683 new cases of COVID-19, the state’s highest one-day total since the start of the pandemic, according to federal health data released Saturday, as its theme park resorts again started asking visitors to wear masks indoors. > > The state has become the new national epicenter for the virus, accounting for around a fifth of all new cases in the U.S. as the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus continues to spread. > > Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has resisted mandatory mask mandates and vaccine requirements, and along with the state Legislature, has limited local officials’ ability to impose restrictions meant to stop the spread of COVID-19. DeSantis on Friday barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month. > > The latest numbers were recorded on Friday and released on Saturday on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s [website](https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases). The figures show how quickly the number of cases is rising in the Sunshine State: only a day earlier, Florida reported 17,093 new daily cases. The previous peak in Florida had been 19,334 cases reported on Jan. 7, before the availability of vaccinations became widespread. > > The state reported 409 deaths this week, bringing the total to more than 39,000 since its first in March 2020. The state’s peak happened in mid-August 2020, when 1,266 people died over a seven-day period. Deaths usually follow increases in hospitalizations by a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1964 "2021-08-01T04:01:53Z")
198,552,233 total cases 4,233,009 dead 179,294,083 recovered In the US: 35,745,024 total cases 629,315 dead 29,666,117 recovered Yesterday’s numbers for comparison: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > 198,031,336 total cases > 4,224,346 dead > 178,925,467 recovered > > In the US: > > 35,688,506 total cases > 629,064 dead > 29,652,038 recovered ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1965 "2021-08-01T05:16:52Z")
Hawaii recorded 485 new cases today (Saturday), our highest single-day total in the entire pandemic. Yesterday actually showed 622 new cases, but that included some cases that went uncounted the previous two days due to some sort of reporting difficulties from some of the labs. But even then, the three days averaged 313 new cases a day, an alarming surge. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1966 "2021-08-01T13:14:21Z")
Curiously, Desantis insists on fighting mask mandates and pushes for schools to reopen without masking. Keep it up, Ronnie. Let’s see how popular you are when children start dropping dead or end up in ICUs. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1967 "2021-08-01T13:23:10Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Chrissie Hinds] > Hey, uh…. way to ‘duh’, Florida. - > [/Chrissie Hinds] > [Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-health-business-arts-and-entertainment-florida-01fa89e1d9491ab075c5deb689af1ea8) Someone needs to get it through DeSantis’ thick skull that this is not an _accomplishment._ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1968 "2021-08-01T18:13:54Z")
A few days ago I wrote: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > A few hours ago I wrote: > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > I’m pretty sure that the US is going to go over 100,000 new cases today. > > We got close: 99,470 new cases in the US today. And then this exchange happened: > [@keeganst94](#): > > Unless I’m missing something, the US did go over 100,000 cases. 38,688,506 - 35,584,272 = 104,234. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > My numbers should be considered “informal”. I mean, they are the actual numbers _at the time I posted_ but my “day” isn’t always exactly 24 hours. I try and post at 9pm Pacific but occasionally I don’t post until 11pm or later. The 99,470 figure came from WoM, since they do maintain a strict 24-hour cycle on their “days”. > > Sorry for the confusion; hope that clears things up. Well, it turns out that WoM revised the count for that day and it now stands at 101,098 new cases in the US for 30 July 2021. So, yeah: we passed 100,000 new cases in a day again; this had not happened since 12 February 2021. It’s the weekend now and numbers have almost always been lower for Saturday and Sunday, so be prepared for more bad news this coming week. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1969 "2021-08-01T21:26:43Z")
If the trend here follows that of India and the UK, we’ll continue to see a sharp rise for the next 2-3 weeks before a sudden decline. Reported\* case numbers will probably rise to around 200,000 per day sometime in the next 2-3 weeks, if not sooner. But then we’ll hopefully be on the other side of that wave. I just hope we don’t get an even worse variant until we have time to up our vaccine game a bit more. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1970 "2021-08-01T21:44:38Z")
A worse variant is probably inevitable. > **[UK scientists believe it is 'almost certain' a coronavirus variant will...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/uk-scientists-covid-variant-beat-vaccines-intl/index.html)** > > British academics believe it is "almost certain" that a SARS-Cov-2 variant will emerge that "leads to current vaccine failure." SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes Covid-19. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1971 "2021-08-01T22:17:27Z")
If you look at the timeline, there was a cluster of variants that appeared in early late fall/early winter last year, about 10-12 months after the likely initial start of wild SARS-COV-2. The lockdowns, as brutal as they were economically, probably slowed the mutation process. But we started reopening gradually here and here as we headed toward the holiday season, and then India hatched the Delta variant around the start of its own holiday season. I can’t help but think that limiting contact is going to be the key to slowing down mutation - nothing can stop mutations, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1972 "2021-08-01T22:33:18Z")
[quote=“Siam\_Sam, post:1965, topic:929428, full:true”] Hawaii recorded 485 new cases today (Saturday), our highest single-day total in the entire pandemic.[/quote] 452 new cases recorded today in Hawaii, the second-highest total in the pandemic. No new deaths. On the plus side, Hawaii hit 60% fully vaccinated yesterday. The governor has promised all Covid restrictions will be abolished once we hit 70%. But at the present growth rate of 0.1 percentage points per day, we’re looking at November. Thailand has announced yet another two-week extension to its lockdown, which I _think_ started in June, and added 16 more provinces to the list of those affected. That makes 26 provinces (out of 77) including Bangkok and covering 40% of the population. They expect the lockdown will continue at least all the way through this month. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428/1973 "2021-08-02T00:22:25Z")
Okay; there’s some good stats info in this article; that headline is just clickbait: > **[Fauci: More 'pain and suffering' ahead as COVID cases rise](https://apnews.com/article/fauci-covid-cases-rise-26bea820b736cf4d9ac1692ccc0203ae)** > > The nation’s top infectious disease expert is warning that more “pain and suffering” is ahead as COVID-19 cases climb again and officials plead with unvaccinated Americans to get inoculated. To finish the quote in the preview: > Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, also said he doesn’t foresee additional lockdowns in the U.S. because he believes enough people are vaccinated to avoid a recurrence of last winter. However, he said not enough are inoculated to “crush the outbreak” at this point. And now for the data info: > According to data through July 30 from Johns Hopkins University, the seven-day rolling average for daily new cases in the U.S. rose from 30,887 on July 16 to 77,827 on July 30. The seven-day rolling average for the country’s daily new deaths rose over the same period from 253 on July 16 to 358 on July 30, though death reports generally lag weeks after infections and even longer after hospitalizations. > Currently, 58% of Americans 12 years and older are fully vaccinated, according to the [CDC’s data tracker](https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations). > However, people are “getting the message” and more are rolling up their sleeves amid the threat of the delta variant, according to the director of the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Francis Collins said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that vaccinations are up 56% in the U.S. in the last two weeks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2021-breaking-news/929428.md?page=98)