# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2022 Breaking News
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone
**Tags:** covid-quarantine
**Created:** [January 1, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022 "2022-01-01T05:02:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/41 "2022-01-04T14:12:01Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> Would that be wrong?
This was likely Delta:
> **[Canadians End Up In ICU After Attending ‘Covid Party’](https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/09/23/people-end-up-in-icu-after-attending-covid-party/?sh=3f6a7c3976af)**
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> The party was held in the province of Alberta, which has declared a public health emergency as its hospitals struggle to cope with the surge in Covid-19 patients.
> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> The situation in the US is that delta has not yet been displaced by omicron
And those who deliberately try to get sick don’t know which one they’ll get or if they’ll spawn yet another variant.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/42 "2022-01-04T14:54:19Z")
And there are incidents like these:
[https://www.edweek.org/leadership/calif-parents-who-knowingly-sent-child-to-school-with-covid-could-face-penalty/2021/12](https://www.edweek.org/leadership/calif-parents-who-knowingly-sent-child-to-school-with-covid-could-face-penalty/2021/12)
> **[A Grandmother Died From COVID After Playing Cards With a Friend Who Had the...](https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/grandma-dies-from-covid-after-card-game)**
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> Barbara Bartolovich, a grandmother of 10, made sure that everyone at the card game she was going to was vaccinated. But her family says that one person at the game hid the fact that they had tested positive for COVID. Soon, Bartolovich died from...
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### Author:  [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/43 "2022-01-04T15:43:07Z")
The good news is that the number of states setting new record highs in Daily Reported COVID Cases (7-day average) as of January 3, according to the Johns Hopkins site, is down
**Delaware** – 3130
**Michigan** – 13689
**Pennsylvania** – 21413
**Virginia** – 14466
**Kentucky** – 5728
**Texas** – 42540
**Utah** – 3688
**Nevada** – 3111
**Washington (state)** – 8267
The Bad News is there are a lot of new states in the list, away from the East Coast, where it had been concentrated. And its still very high in many of the other states, with record highs reported within the last few days. It seems to still be declining in the country as a whole, slightly down from its peak just above 500,000 daily cases a couple of days ago.
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/44 "2022-01-04T15:49:59Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> And those who deliberately try to get sick don’t know which one they’ll get or if they’ll spawn yet another variant.
“Why bother trying to escape” \<\> “Have a Covid party.”
Get vaccinated, get boosted. Covid parties are ridiculous, as ridiculous as a flu party would be. We know getting Covid isn’t going to provide lifelong protection. We know getting vaccinated isn’t going to provide lifelong protection against ever getting infected. There are gradations between having a Covid party and sheltering in place forever.
VACCINATED people will ALWAYS be at SOME RISK of MILD OR ASYMPTOMATIC Covid infection. I do not see that changing. You do you as far as what you want to do about that. There will never be an “all clear” or zero risk.
As far as variants go, good luck. Covid is worldwide, it is not going to be eradicated. Variants are a fact of life.
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### Author:  [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/45 "2022-01-04T16:03:07Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> I was really surprised to see them posting pictures of all the great places they were going and hanging out maskless in a bar with “these really cool people we just met”. I couldn’t figure out what the hell they were thinking.
Yeah, it’s kind of paradoxical – we were touted as “safe” and “doing the right thing” because we were _not_ being like Florida in official denial and letting it all hang loose; so people decided we should celebrate and reward that good job… by letting it all hang loose 🤦♂️
…
(TBF the government before and even now after the surge is getting just bloody bombarded by the restaurants association, hotels association, events promoters association, tour guides association, etc. who are themselves looking at the end of all the previously approved subsidies and compensations and saying “we’re not gonna make it at a fraction of capacity when those federal dollars stop coming”)
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### Author:  [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/46 "2022-01-04T16:23:51Z")
> [@squeegee](#):
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> # Holy crud, Worldometer has 933k US cases in one day
Anyone know why the “Daily New Cases” graph on Worldometers doesn’t match the 933k number? You can mouse over the right-most lines of the graph to see what the graph shows for US cases yesterday (less than 500k).
> **[United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)**
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> United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/47 "2022-01-04T16:42:26Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#):
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> “Why bother trying to escape” \<\> “Have a Covid party.”
For me, “Why bother trying to escape?” implies “Go get sick!” YMOV
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### Author:  [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/48 "2022-01-04T16:55:49Z")
Obligatory xkcd comic:
> **[Immunity](https://xkcd.com/2557/)**
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> This plan may sound appealing to people who know a little about the immune system, but the drawbacks are clear to people who know a lot about the immune system and also to people who don't know anything about it.
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### Author:  [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/49 "2022-01-04T17:33:38Z")
> [@bordelond](#):
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> Anyone know why the “Daily New Cases” graph on Worldometers doesn’t match the 933k number? You can mouse over the right-most lines of the graph to see what the graph shows for US cases yesterday (less than 500k).
Yeah, I see that too. Weird. The 1 million-ish number does seem real though:
> **[US sets global record with over 1 million COVID cases in one day](https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/over-1-million-covid-cases-recorded-in-the-us-on-monday-a-global-record/)**
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> Monday's high likely includes backlog, but more cases missed with at-home tests.
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### Author:  [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/50 "2022-01-04T18:49:13Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> With Omicron, case numbers are decoupled from hospitalizations and deaths. Deaths are remaining flat. Hospitalizations are up, but not at the same levels as early last year.
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> US trends from the [NYT](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html):
I’m not sure what you think these charts show.
- Omicron hasn’t been dominant in the US long enough for us to see the effects of it in death rates.
- Your chart starts in October when case rates were already pretty high.
- The case rate chart is so skewed by the current spike that it entirely obscures the fact that case rates were falling from mid-October through mid-November
- Cases flattened out between mid-November and Mid-December
- Death rates fell throughout November as expected
- Death rates flattened out through most of December as expected
- A massive surge of cases began mid December, presumably driven by Omicron
- If historic trends are followed, we can predict a surge in death rates beginning two weeks later.
- Two weeks from the middle of December is…today
In other words, it’s just too soon to say that the death rate hasn’t followed the cases. Cases have risen 7 fold in the last 14 days. I would expect to see deaths rise 7 fold in the next 14 days. If we see substantially less than that, THEN we can celebrate the lower rates. Not before.
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### Author:  [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/51 "2022-01-04T18:58:54Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> And NOW we even are finally getting a strong antivaxx pushback, from the usual Facebook University graduates who figure out that all this means that all the measures taken before were worthless.
The Facebook University dingbats don’t bother to look at the _complete_ disconnect between cases and hospitalizations/deaths in PR. They are doing better than any state in the US. Nevertheless, hospitalizations are rising and 25% are children who have not been vaccinated. That, once again, emphasizes the success of vaccination.
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### Author:  [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/52 "2022-01-04T21:36:27Z")
New Variant in France.
> **[New COVID-19 variant named ‘IHU’ discovered in France — said to be stronger...](https://www.businessinsider.in/science/health/news/new-covid-19-variant-named-ihu-discovered-in-france-said-to-be-stronger-than-omicron/articleshow/88685048.cms)**
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> Scientists and experts in France have reportedly identified a new variant of COVID-19 termed ‘IHU’. The new variant is said to be a more mutated strain than
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### Author:  [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2022, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/53 "2022-01-04T23:39:12Z")
Israel started to roll out its fourth shot (second booster) for the over-60 and immunocompromised. My dad (73 years old) got his today.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/54 "2022-01-05T00:35:50Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The Beijing Winter Olympics are set to begin 4 February.
Just.
Cancel.
Them.
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### Author:  [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/55 "2022-01-05T00:45:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Just.
> Cancel.
> Them.
Ah, but that would make the CCP lose face.
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### Author:  [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/56 "2022-01-05T00:57:28Z")
> [@dtilque](#):
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> Don’t get so excited. Much of that is just catch-up from the holidays. A weekend effect squared, shall we say.
We’re already up to 920,787 US cases today and it’s only 5pm. I don’t think this is entirely reporting delays, this is the continuation of a huge surge.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/57 "2022-01-05T01:11:34Z")
> [@Bootb](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Just.
> > Cancel.
> > Them.
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> Ah, but that would make the CCP lose face. -
Isn’t that the leopards’ job?
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/58 "2022-01-05T01:28:20Z")
Omicron Covid is everywhere. It’s not like you’re going to spread it somewhere else. This isn’t 2020.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/59 "2022-01-05T01:31:14Z")
So basically “fuck it then” is the best way forward?
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)
#### Post date: [January 5, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/60 "2022-01-05T01:36:25Z")
Do you think all of the people involved are going to avoid Omicron if they cancel? Or even many? Or even any?
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