# Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2022 Breaking News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022>\
**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [January 1, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022 "2022-01-01T05:02:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/683 "2022-09-06T14:51:31Z")

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I did have to do some searching to find that specific recommendation. The CDC as of yesterday hadn’t updated a couple of its main pages on Covid-19 vaccine policy to reflect booster timing for those previously infected.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/684 "2022-09-07T17:25:59Z")

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CDC, FDA, and various providers need to get on the same page as to what exactly the rules are regarding the new boosters. Everything I’ve read seems to suggest that a new bivalent booster is possible something like two months after the last without it mattering if it is a second or third. Walgreens at least is saying that a third booster, bivalent or not, is not allowed. Seriously, why isn’t there a very simple FAQ for this that pops up as a first result?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/685 "2022-09-08T01:48:55Z")

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I think my last exposure was November, when I got the first booster.

Sounds like I should schedule it soon.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/686 "2022-09-08T02:02:03Z")

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I just booked an appointment for the new booster next week. I’ve had the first and second doses and one booster, all of which were Pfizer, and the pharmacy offered either Moderna or Pfizer this time. I booked the Pfizer vaccine but was wondering if I should instead get a Moderna shot, just to change things.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/687 "2022-09-08T02:07:57Z")

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Is there information on how long they expect the protection to last with the new bivalent shots, presuming we don’t get a new escape mutation?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/688 "2022-09-08T06:47:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I just booked an appointment for the new booster next week. I’ve had the first and second doses and one booster, all of which were Pfizer, and the pharmacy offered either Moderna or Pfizer this time. I booked the Pfizer vaccine but was wondering if I should instead get a Moderna shot, just to change things.

The general consensus seems to be that mix and match provides at least as good a protection and potentially even better (depending on several other factors).  
So you’ll be fine whichever route you go but a different booster may well give you a few extra percentage points of protection.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/689 "2022-09-15T12:23:29Z")

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> **[WHO: COVID end 'in sight,' deaths at lowest since March 2020](https://apnews.com/article/health-covid-geneva-pandemics-united-nations-38b887027e4277892747133fea0bfe21)**
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> GENEVA (AP) — The head of the World Health Organization said Wednesday that the number of coronavirus deaths worldwide last week was the lowest reported in the pandemic since March 2020, marking what could be a turning point in the years-long global...

Can it be true?

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/690 "2022-09-15T12:44:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Can it be true?

In the US we still have over 400 deaths a day, making COVID the third highest cause of death in the country. That doesn’t feel like the end is “in sight”.

> **[400 Americans are dying each day. We cannot accept this reality.](https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/400-americans-are-dying-each-day)**
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> We are losing ~400 Americans a day. In the last 7 days, we have lost 2,299 people. During August 2022 alone, we lost 15,284 Americans to COVID-19. This means COVID-19 remains the third leading cause of death in our repertoire of threats. And it’s...

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/691 "2022-09-15T12:52:30Z")

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I know… 😢

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/692 "2022-09-15T13:29:56Z")

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Well, maybe “the end” is we all just live with a lower expected lifespan and a higher expected risk of disability.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/693 "2022-09-15T14:38:35Z")

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Yep. And that lower expected life expectancy will be for people not up to date on their vaccine and, unfortunately, immunocompromised people who aren’t vigilant about testing and don’t seek antiviral therapy.

The unvaccinated (I define as anyone not updated yearly), will get covid once or twice a year. Unless covid mutates to get milder, they’ll have more chronic health issues than vaccinated people who may or may not even get covid.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/694 "2022-09-15T15:04:01Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> In the US we still have over 400 deaths a day, making COVID the third highest cause of death in the country. That doesn’t feel like the end is “in sight”.

If you use Worldometers **Daily Deaths** graph for the U.S. and click on the **7-day moving average** checkbox, you can see that the moving average dropped over 20% between early August and the weekend before Labor Day. The summer high was 514 on Wednesday August 10th. This dropped to 401 by Sunday September 4th.

It takes about 10-14 days for these moving averages to stabilize – figures are frequently updated for about that long after they’re first posted. So we don’t yet have locked-in figures for Labor Day on forward. But we will soon. And going by a faster drop\*\* in moving 7-day average detected cases (see **Daily New Cases** graph at same page), deaths aren’t likely in the medium term to surge back up.

> **[United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer](https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)**
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> United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

\*\* _Fri 07/15/2022 - 133,047 ← SUMMER SURGE HIGH_  
_Mon 07/25/2022 - 132,235_  
_Mon 08/01/2022 - 125,348_  
_Mon 08/08/2022 - 112,032_  
_Mon 08/15/2022 - 102,411_  
_Mon 08/22/2022 - 93,832_  
_Mon 08/29/2022 - 89,777_  
_Mon 09/05/2022 - 78,896_

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/695 "2022-10-12T19:24:25Z")

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7 day moving average for Sep 4 is now listed as 81,897 or if you prefer Sep 6, it’s 75,143

And dropping nicely. Deaths are also dropping, and are only a little higher than they were during the sweet spot in July 2021, after vaccination and before we got hit with a lot of variants.

But positivity, (and sewage values) seem to be trending up in the northeast and the midwest. And those are likely our best leading indicators right now.

for positivity:  
[An interactive visualization of COVID-19 | 91-DIVOC](https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/)

for sewage:  
[Covid-19 Wastewater Monitoring | Biobot Analytics](https://biobot.io/data/)

(actually, wastewater levels in the northeast seem to have leveled off, at about where they were mid-Nov last year, before the big holiday surges.)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/696 "2022-10-16T21:53:07Z")

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The wife and I both got our third Covid booster yesterday, along with our flu shot. That makes five Covid shots in all, counting the original two doses a few weeks apart.

Many of the wife’s relatives in Bangkok have all come down with it recently, but being vaccinated, even with the crappy Chinese stuff, their symptoms are mild.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/697 "2022-10-22T19:21:05Z")

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The head of the CDC has tested positive.

> **[CDC director tests positive for COVID-19, has mild symptoms](https://apnews.com/article/biden-health-centers-for-disease-control-and-prevention-pandemics-covid-e141ce310baab4822f1be04619740c67)**
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> ATLANTA (AP) — The director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has tested positive for COVID-19 . Dr. Rochelle Walensky, who is up to date on her vaccinations, tested positive Friday night and had mild symptoms, the CDC said in a...

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/698 "2022-12-04T18:05:46Z")

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> **[Congress eyes end to military coronavirus vaccine mandate](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congress-eyes-end-to-military-coronavirus-vaccine-mandate/ar-AA14TuPI)**
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> Kevin McCarthy claims he worked out a deal with President Biden as part of a defense bill, but White House officials say nothing has been finalized.

[Note this is unpaywalled MSN repost.]

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/699 "2023-01-03T18:06:48Z")

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The idiots are saying that Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field because he’s vaccinated. And Twitter is allowing it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-2022-breaking-news/957022/700 "2023-01-03T18:24:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> And Twitter is allowing it.

“And ~~Twitter~~ Elon Musk is allowing it.”

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