# "Correct" pronounciations that people have given up on **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2015, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246 "2015-10-11T07:34:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/21 "2015-10-11T14:14:25Z")
“Cache”: what is it? How is it pronounced? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/22 "2015-10-11T14:16:15Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > “Cache”: what is it? How is it pronounced? Cash- it’s a hidden trove of something. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/23 "2015-10-11T14:18:14Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The same applies to an individual’s names (both given name and surname.) > > See **La-a** pronounced Ladasha. 🙂 I’ve always joked that the people in the city over from me don’t know how to say the name of their own city. You can always tell if someone is or was from that city based on how they say it. It sounds so rednecky. Ray-seen, instead of (the right way) Rah-seen. > [@Ludovic](#): > > In my mind I pronounce it zah-GAHT which seems slightly different from zeGAT, but I’ve never heard anyone say it out loud (or maybe they did and I assumed they meant something else?) zeGAT, zah-GAHT, same thing, I’ve never been good at writing pronunciations. But I think most people say it the other way. Here you can here her say it both ways, not sure how to say it. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTUIR1Uwqyk) ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/24 "2015-10-11T14:20:27Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Cash- it’s a hidden trove of something. A cache of cash? I left out a question–how does cache pertain to computers? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/25 "2015-10-11T14:34:51Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The same applies to an individual’s names (both given name and surname.) > > See **La-a** pronounced Ladasha. 🙂 That’s right. You can think they’re dumb for constructing a name a certain way. But _you_ are still wrong if you say it differently. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/26 "2015-10-11T14:43:38Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Forte as “strength” would typically be pronounced “Fort” from the French, not “For-TAY” like the Italian. Never mind. But the French word has an accent on the E which would make it be pronounced For-TAY. “Fort” is the Anglicization. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/27 "2015-10-11T14:49:18Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > The correct pronunciation of a place name is always that of the people who live there. There’s a church in south Baltimore - St. Rose of Lima - pronounced like the bean. OK, whatever. I get stabby when people pronounce the t in _often_. How do they say _soften_? And the French word \*forte \*does not have an accent, and it means strong. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/28 "2015-10-11T14:49:28Z")
The word defense is supposed to be pronounced de-FENCE, but because of the wonder of sports and our love of chanting, we’ve basically turned that into DE-fence ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/29 "2015-10-11T15:14:18Z")
I always hear people say “lingerie” with the last syllable sounding like “ray” and nobody bothers to correct it. Seems standard now, at least in the US. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/30 "2015-10-11T15:16:53Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > But the French word has an accent on the E which would make it be pronounced For-TAY. “Fort” is the Anglicization. Could you show evidence for that? Because everything I can find shows no accent. As far as I can see, the French word is either _Fort_ (pronounced “fore”) or _Forte_ (pronounced “fort”). ---
**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/31 "2015-10-11T15:26:05Z")
I don’t care how much the English language is evolving, I refuse to say Feb-yoo-ary. ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/32 "2015-10-11T15:30:00Z")
I had a boss who said “Febby-airy.” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/33 "2015-10-11T16:01:14Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > The correct pronunciation of a place name is always that of the people who live there. Nope. The correct pronunciation is the one that the people whom you’re speaking to are familiar with. Julius Caesar probably pronounced his name like Yooleeoos Kighsahr. Do you pronounce it that way? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/34 "2015-10-11T16:31:04Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > The same applies to an individual’s names (both given name and surname.) > > See **La-a** pronounced Ladasha. 🙂 This one drives me crazy. It’s pronounced Lahyphena. ([Snopes link](http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/le-a.asp), now with annoying pop-up audio commercials, for anyone who needs it.) ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/35 "2015-10-11T16:34:58Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > A cache of cash? > > I left out a question–how does cache pertain to computers? Well, like with the non-computer definition, a cache is a place to store something. The context you likely run into it is with web browsers that store certain files (usually temporarily) from websites in order to make them load faster the next time you visit them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/36 "2015-10-11T16:51:24Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Forte as “strength” would typically be pronounced “Fort” from the French, not “For-TAY” like the Italian. Never mind. That’s the one I was going to mention. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > The American aerospace company “Lockheed” was started by the Loughead brothers who were originally from Scotland. They eventually tired of everybody in the USA mispronouncing their and their company’s name as “Luff-head”. > > So they changed the spelling to match the correct pronunciation. Which correct pronunciation the public then rapidly adopted. Problem solved. A similar thing happened with [Hector Boyardee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Boyardee). Born Ettore Boiardi, he ‘sold his products under the brand name “Chef Boy-Ar-Dee” so that his American customers could pronounce his name properly.’ As for the OP, one name that grates on my nerves as someone who took a lot of German in school and as a former owner of the marque, is Porsche. The ‘e’ is pronounced. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/37 "2015-10-11T16:57:11Z")
My last name is French. I’ve given up on the correct pronunciation, and just go with pronouncing it the way it looks. That way there is a chance that people may be able to spell it right. It always amazes me though, when I order a script at Rite Aid, and I get the automated call telling me it’s ready, the computerized voice always pronounces it correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/38 "2015-10-11T17:05:34Z")
> [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](#): > > German? It’s a Mexican company. I think getting English speakers to pronounce it beem-bo is not going to happen. How do you pronounce it? I would’a sworn we pronounced the first syllable like bimbo as in girl, but maybe I just can’t hear the difference. There’s quite a few Spanish lastnames which are more likely to be spelled with a B if in non-Spanish-speaking countries, with a V in Spanish-speaking ones. Makes sense by the rule of “I just want people to say it right” or by that of people not asking “how do you spell that?” In most Spanish dialects, the two letters correspond to the /b/ sound. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/39 "2015-10-11T17:11:42Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Well, like with the non-computer definition, a cache is a place to store something. The context you likely run into it is with web browsers that store certain files (usually temporarily) from websites in order to make them load faster the next time you visit them. Thanks, **Rigamarole** , I owe you one. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246/40 "2015-10-11T17:15:48Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Forte as “strength” would typically be pronounced “Fort” from the French, not “For-TAY” like the Italian. Never mind. When did this get given up on? I’ve never in my life heard anyone say “that’s not my fort” instead of “that’s not my fortay.” Not ever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/correct-pronounciations-that-people-have-given-up-on/734246.md?page=3)