# Corrupt Juvie Court Judges **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499 "2009-02-12T06:11:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/121 "2011-08-14T16:37:46Z")
> [@Khristy](#): > > They should bring those fucking judges here to Philly and let our flash mobs give them some justice. > > This shit is unbelievable!!! Al Flora was on the news a couple days ago whining about how he’s worried about Shitarella’s safety in jail (about which everyone I know said tough shit for him) so I don’t think we’ll need any flash mobs. I know the Transue family (went to high school with one of them) and they so didn’t deserve any of this. Shitarella’s MO was counting on the fact that not many people know the details of the juvenile court system combined with the fact no one normally will contradict a judge. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/122 "2013-05-03T19:59:26Z")
**[UPDATE?](http://www.examiner.com/article/pennsylvania-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-prison-for-selling-teens-to-prisons)** > [@](#): > > **Pennsylvania judge sentenced to 28 years in prison for selling teens to prisons** > > Disgraced Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for conspiring with private prisons to sentence juvenile offenders to maximum sentences for bribes and kickbacks which totaled millions of dollars. He was also ordered to pay $1.2 million in restitution. I put the question mark there because I can’t find what the nature of the update–whether this is recycled news making rounds in the blogs and getting picked up, whether his sentence/fine was finalized or something else. But fuck him, he deserves to be eaten by a zombie anyway. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/123 "2013-05-04T00:32:56Z")
I still think he should be beaten to death with whips, publically. Along with every person complicit in this affair. Then toss their bodies on the garbage heap and let the public piss on them. At the very least he needs to be put in general pop. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/124 "2013-05-04T00:40:52Z")
He was sentenced on April 30th after a round of appeals. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/125 "2013-05-04T01:24:31Z")
Only 28 years. Pity. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/126 "2013-05-04T01:34:36Z")
What they ought to do is add up all the years this guy sentenced all those kids to, triple it, and give him that. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/127 "2013-05-04T02:10:30Z")
Depending on where they send him 28 years will be longer than he’s likely to live. If he’s goes to a nice cushy bullshit rich mans prison that would be a damn shame. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/128 "2013-05-04T11:59:10Z")
Just out of curiousity, exactly what was he convicted of? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/129 "2013-05-04T12:28:52Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Just out of curiousity, exactly what was he convicted of? Aggravated Asshattery, [plus](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal#Criminal_verdicts): > [@](#): > > On February 18, 2011, following a trial, a federal jury convicted Ciavarella on 12 of the 39 counts he faced including racketeering, a crime in which prosecutors said the former judge used children “as pawns to enrich himself.” In convicting Ciavarella of racketeering, the jury agreed with prosecutors that he and another corrupt judge had taken an illegal payment of nearly $1 million from a juvenile detention center’s builder and then hidden the money.[11] > > The panel of six men and six women also found Ciavarella guilty of “honest services mail fraud” and of being a tax cheat, for failing to list that money and more on his annual public financial-disclosure forms and on four years of tax returns. In addition, they found him guilty of conspiring to launder money. The jurors acquitted Ciavarella of extortion and bribery in connection with $1.9 million that prosecutors said the judges extracted from the builder and owner of two juvenile-detention centers, including allegations that Ciavarella shared in FedEx boxes stuffed with tens of thousands of dollars in cash. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/130 "2013-05-14T18:52:53Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Depending on where they send him 28 years will be longer than he’s likely to live… Two good ol’ apocryphal sentencing stories: 1. A judge sentences an elderly white-collar defendant to 20 years in prison for stealing millions of dollars. “Your Honor,” says the defendant, his voice quavering, “I don’t think I’ll live long enough to finish that sentence.” “Well,” says the judge with a kind smile, “just do the best you can.” 1. A judge sentences a young killer to a very long prison term and says, “Your parole officer has not been _born_ yet.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499/131 "2013-05-14T18:58:57Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Depending on where they send him 28 years will be longer than he’s likely to live. If he’s goes to a nice cushy bullshit rich mans prison that would be a damn shame. Presumably there’s plenty of space for him in Pennsylvania’s for-profit juvenile prisons. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corrupt-juvie-court-judges/485499.md?page=6)