# Cory Monteith (Finn on Glee) found dead in hotel. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 14, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461 "2013-07-14T05:52:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/21 "2013-07-14T18:21:45Z")
I’m not sure any of Glee’s writers know how to write any plots that don’t involve a love triangle, so Rachel will probably get two new boyfriends. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/22 "2013-07-14T18:44:59Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I just hope they don’t turn this into a “very special episode” and go into drug abuse. Nearly every episode of “Glee” was a “very special episode”, which is one of the reasons I dumped it last year. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/23 "2013-07-14T19:04:27Z")
I still have the last 11 eps from last season on my DVR. I’d stopped watching it because I was just getting too…Glee-y. Did it pick up after that? StG ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/24 "2013-07-14T20:53:26Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Laurie Foreman on That 70s Show is the first one to spring to mind. I’m sure there are a few others, but you’re right, it’s incredibly rare today. Laurie wasn’t a major character like Finn was. There’s zero-chance he’ll be recast and there’s no plausible way to write him out of the show without killing him off. > [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > …Keep in mind that Finn was in college getting his teaching credential, so he wouldn’t have really been a major factor in next season anyway, unless they were going to have a separate Lima University storyline (which would explain why they brought Puck back)… I think that was the original plan for season 5; Finn being an education student at a local college would create slightly less contrived excuses for him to keep showing up at WMHS. > [@DMark](#): > > …I am sure the writers are scrambling now to adapt current scripts, and the audience will be wondering how they handle this tragic real life situation within the confines of the scripted story. I know this sounds really sick & insensitive but I hated most of season 4 and had no plans to watch this season until know. I’ll tune in for the first couple episodes if only to see how Finn’s death get’s handled. Though if Rachel suddenly turns out to be pregnant with his child I predict pipe bombs for Ryan Murphy. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/25 "2013-07-14T21:12:50Z")
Should we start a _Glee_ season five speculation thread? I feel kind of bad about using a thread about Monteith’s death for that purpose. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/26 "2013-07-14T21:28:17Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > No, because that had already happened. Most of the original cast graduated at the end of season three and season four had already been spent coming up with contrived reasons to keep bringing them back. Four of the characters were seniors at the start of Season 4 - Artie, Tina, Blaine, and Brittany. By not ending Season 4 with graduation, the characters can stay on as regulars, and sing with New Directions (otherwise Blaine could have just moved to New York), for another season. (Well, except for Brittany, but that was because Heather Morris got pregnant.) This also gives the current juniors pretty much guaranteed jobs in the already-announced Season 6. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/27 "2013-07-15T01:04:59Z")
They’ll never make regionals now. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/28 "2013-07-15T01:22:19Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Laurie wasn’t a major character like Finn was. There’s zero-chance he’ll be recast and there’s no plausible way to write him out of the show without killing him off. Sure she was. The whole Kelso-Laurie plot drove a whole season of that show. ---
**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/29 "2013-07-15T01:25:14Z")
I was shocked by the news when I got up this morning. How awful for his loved ones, and for the many who loved him. Finn, and Monteith’s portrayal of him, was very important in the early days of _Glee_, and it’s hard to imagine another actor as effectively toeing the line between jock and nerd, popular kid and pariah, confident and lost. _Glee_ will continue without him but, for better or worse, it will continue as something that Cory Monteith had a big hand in building. RIP ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/30 "2013-07-15T02:09:00Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Laurie Foreman on That 70s Show is the first one to spring to mind. I’m sure there are a few others, but you’re right, it’s incredibly rare today. Is it? Mad Men’s recast the son like 3 times now, and Game of Thrones recast the Mountain between seasons. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/31 "2013-07-15T02:15:19Z")
I liked the first couple seasons but haven’t watched lately. He was a good choice for that part. Sorry to hear of his passing. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/33 "2013-07-15T19:42:59Z")
Tragic. I drifted away from Glee towards the end of S3. I’ve been slowly catching up. (a several month break was good to cleanse the palate). Still, the first season was excellent, (and some of the 2nd as well) and Finn’s story was a big part of why. Celebrity deaths don’t usually hit me hard, but for some reason this one did. a great future cut short. And not too far from my own age, too. ugh RIP Cory ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/34 "2013-07-15T19:49:08Z")
Jerry’s dad on Seinfeld. A recurring character, recast after (I think) just one appearance. Here’s an IMDB list of the phenomenon: [http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/](http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/) ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/35 "2013-07-15T19:55:06Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Jerry’s dad on Seinfeld. A recurring character, recast after (I think) just one appearance. > > Here’s an IMDB list of the phenomenon: > > [http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/](http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/) Was this meant maybe for [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16476079#post16476079)? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/36 "2013-07-15T20:00:43Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Jerry’s dad on Seinfeld. A recurring character, recast after (I think) just one appearance. > > Here’s an IMDB list of the phenomenon: > > [http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/](http://www.imdb.com/list/cO7UPpdvsPo/) As **KneadToKnow** said, wrong thread. But also doesn’t count as Morty’s original actor died in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/37 "2013-07-15T20:35:34Z")
Am I correct in thinking that he and Lea Michele were or had been in a relationship in real life? ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/38 "2013-07-15T20:37:22Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Am I correct in thinking that he and Lea Michele were or had been in a relationship in real life? Yes. Were at the time of his death. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/39 "2013-07-16T00:52:38Z")
The [Gleeful podcast](http://gleefulpodcast.com/) (also available on iTunes) did a nice episode last night talking about their reactions to the news of Monteith’s death. I’ve recommended this podcast before, but for those of you not familiar with it the hosts are all actual grown-ups (Josh and Jen are a married couple in their mid 30s, Ed is a couple of years out of college and so must be mid 20s) so this wasn’t a bunch of teenagers sobbing or anything. They talked about what Monteith contributed to the show, feeling grief over the death of a celebrity, and also being an adult who’s a little embarrassed to say why they’re feeling down because they know that most of their friends and coworkers would think it was stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/40 "2013-07-16T21:04:05Z")
He died from a mixture of [alcohol and heroin](http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/16/cory-monteith-heroin-alcohol-cause-of-death/) (though I’m guessing the heroin was the more lethal). ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461/41 "2013-07-16T21:12:53Z")
No, it’s the interaction which is lethal: " The single most common cause of heroin sudden death is bad interaction (and sometimes synergy) of heroin with CNS depressant–especially alcohol and barbiturates. The government has made it very hard to get barbiturates during the past couple of decades, so the biggest problem is alcohol. I have been present during several sudden deaths that happened when a drunk person ingested a relatively small amount of heroin. This appears to have been the cause of Janis Joplin’s death, in addition to the deaths of many others who are commonly said to have died of “heroin overdose”." > **[Heroin Helper](http://www.heroinhelper.com/)** > > Help for users of heroin and other opioids [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cory-monteith-finn-on-glee-found-dead-in-hotel/663461.md?page=3)