# Corzine speeds home from hospital at 70 in a 55 zome **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 7, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043 "2007-05-07T00:57:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/1 "2007-05-07T00:57:25Z")
[Laugh or cry, take your pick.](http://news.monstersandcritics.com/health/news/article_1299001.php/Corzine_speeds_away_from_N.J._hospital) Actually, it may well be true that it is more dangerous to keep to the speed limit than break it, when all the traffic around you is buzzing by 10-20 miles an hour faster. It’s just something that state traffic enforcement officials can never actually acknowledge. But the convoy, while being the slow vehicles on the road, also stayed in the left lane. I’m not sure if that is a violation in NJ, but it certainly violates driving conventions. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/2 "2007-05-07T01:05:59Z")
If my house was named “Drumthwacket”, I would not be in such a hurry to get home. He’s a rich prick who bought himself a Governorship. I don’t wish a 91 mph crash on anyone, but his absolute arrogance and contempt for the law and basic safety makes me both pity him and realize that New Jersey has found itself a perfect leader. ---
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/3 "2007-05-07T01:12:43Z")
I’m sorry… What’s your point? It’s New (fuckin’) Jersey! I’m not in the least surprised that he was doing 70 in the left lane of a 55mph highway. I’m also not at all surprised that he was being passed while doing so. I learned to drive in Jersey. I’ve driven up and down the East coast. My opinion of Jersey drivers is that they’re pretty good. (You don’t want to know my opinion of Rhode Island drivers.) Typical rush hour driving involves 10-15-20 above the limit, with only about one to two car lengths between you and other cars in your lane. Much more than that and people cut in front of you. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/4 "2007-05-07T02:32:20Z")
The 101.5 agenda brigade will be hounding whoever sits in that seat until the ‘right’ party’s candidate is elected. Maybe Christie Todd Whitman will come back after her bang-up job at the EPA and lying about air quality at Ground Zero. Nobody ever clocks snow-plows. Of course thats about as likely as claiming a ‘farm subsidy’ to off-set property taxes on a multi-acre mansion estate… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/5 "2007-05-07T02:58:10Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > He’s a rich prick who bought himself a Governorship. I don’t wish a 91 mph crash on anyone, but his absolute arrogance and contempt for the law and basic safety makes me both pity him and realize that New Jersey has found itself a perfect leader. Isn’t it kind of a stretch to call this contempt for the law? They were 5 to 15 miles an hour over the limit, which is pretty normal. He wasn’t driving, and he was probably in the back in the wheelchair. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/6 "2007-05-07T03:14:54Z")
Yep. Completely average and reasonable speed on that road. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/7 "2007-05-07T03:21:12Z")
[QUOTE=JustAnotherGeek] … What’s your point? … [/QUOTE] My point is What a Dumb Fuck. The guy is almost killed, then makes a VERY public apology and very public pledge to have his drivers obey the posted speed limit. Then, THE VERY NEXT TIME HE GETS INTO A CAR, he violates the pledge, and his handlers and the cops must have known that reporters would hop into cars and follow him, and make note of it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/8 "2007-05-07T03:27:13Z")
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse] If my house was named “Drumthwacket”, I would not be in such a hurry to get home. [/QUOTE] Ever see it? I have, and I’d live there in a second. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/9 "2007-05-07T03:36:03Z")
Good Lord, what a moron. The dude almost died in a car crash, and he still can’t watch his speed? Granted, I live in a state where nobody obeys the speed limits, including me, but I’d think that if I almost died in a horrible accident, I’d damn sure ease off the gas pedal a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/10 "2007-05-07T03:42:21Z")
[QUOTE=Voyager] Ever see it? I have, and I’d live there in a second. [/QUOTE] It’s pretty [impressive](http://www.drumthwacket.org/) when you drive past it. [QUOTE=Count Blucher] The 101.5 agenda brigade will be hounding whoever sits in that seat until the ‘right’ party’s candidate is elected. [/QUOTE] Just about everyone on that station is a kneejerk idiot but none of them are right wing. I don’t remember anyone on the station liking Whitman. I’ve never heard anyone say anything good about Bush. Their agenda is very populist and often seems libertarian but certainly not Republican or conservative. ---
**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/11 "2007-05-07T04:37:43Z")
Cite that Corzine was actually driving? In the crash, his vehicle was being driven by a state trooper and nowhere does the article say that Corzine was driving this time, either. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/12 "2007-05-07T04:40:24Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Just about everyone on that station is a kneejerk idiot but none of them are right wing. I don’t remember anyone on the station liking Whitman. I’ve never heard anyone say anything good about Bush. Their agenda is very populist and often seems libertarian but certainly not Republican or conservative. [/QUOTE] I really miss John & Ken. They haven’t had a decent afternoon show since those two left. (OK, I don’t miss John’s yelling all the time, but at least the two of them had something resembling brains.) On the other hand, I moved to PA a couple years back, so 101.5 doesn’t matter as much to me anymore. Kinda miss the 24-hour traffic information, but it’s not like PA is small enough that something like that could work well. ---
**Author:** ![Br\_er\_Lapin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Br\_er\_Lapin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Br_er_Lapin)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/13 "2007-05-07T04:57:14Z")
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath] Yep. Completely average and reasonable speed on that road. [/QUOTE] (Assuming this isn’t sarcasm by some strange chance..) Ditto. I’m south of the Princeton area, but have been up that way many times, and I can’t imagine going under 65 on 295, period. I’d be afraid of being rear-ended. 5-15 above the speed limit is pretty standard in this area. Anything below and you’d be getting passed left and right, which kind of freaks me out more than speeding, to be honest. Does going 5-10 faster than XX greatly increase your chances of injury/death over XX? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/14 "2007-05-07T10:32:30Z")
Not sarcasm. In fact, the article says ‘speeds up to 70’, which is an interesting way of lying. He could have been doing 55 for most of it, and hit 70 when merging onto the highway, and then slowed again. The driver could have accidentally leadfooted it for half a second. Hell, he could never have broken 60, and that still counts as ‘up to 70’. Did these guys have a radar gun on the car the whole way or something? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/15 "2007-05-07T16:20:44Z")
[QUOTE=Diceman] The dude almost died in a car crash, and he still can’t watch his speed? [/QUOTE] Yeah, well, I bet this time he put on his seat belt. Also, twirled himself up in bubble wrap. Also, made sure he was sitting directly behind a really fat guy. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/16 "2007-05-07T16:25:46Z")
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse] He’s a rich prick who bought himself a Governorship. [/QUOTE] I was under the impression that Governers were elected by voters. (Even in New Jersey.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/17 "2007-05-07T17:36:13Z")
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse] If my house was named “Drumthwacket”, I would not be in such a hurry to get home. He’s a rich prick who bought himself a Governorship. I don’t wish a 91 mph crash on anyone, but his absolute arrogance and contempt for the law and basic safety makes me both pity him and realize that New Jersey has found itself a perfect leader. [/QUOTE] What is up with the slam at NJ. You condemn Corzine, who I am not particularly fond of, and then slam NJ by saying he is our perfect leader? You make a nonsensical attack on the name of the Governor’s Mansion. What does that have to do with anything? As far as speeding, good gosh man, have you ever driven a NJ highway? He probably caused more grief by going 70 in the fast lane than if they did 91. BTW: NJ does have a law that says slower traffic should keep to the right and that the left lane is for passing only. These laws end up contradicting the speed limit quite often. 😉 Jim ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/18 "2007-05-08T00:02:58Z")
[QUOTE=JustAnotherGeek] Typical rush hour driving involves 10-15-20 above the limit, with only about one to two car lengths between you and other cars in your lane. Much more than that and people cut in front of you. [/QUOTE] I wish I lived somewhere where you could drive 20mph above the speed limit during rush hour. Not enough to move to New Jersey, though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/19 "2007-05-08T00:23:46Z")
I’ve always seen it suggested by traffic safety types, including police officers giving information on traffic safety, that you should move with the flow of traffic, which cuts both ways. I understand in most states you can be ticketed for going 55 in a 65 mph zone if it’s in incredibly bad snow and everyone else is going 20-30, because even though you aren’t going above the posted limit you are clearly driving in a manner dangerous to yourself and the other motorists. ---
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/corzine-speeds-home-from-hospital-at-70-in-a-55-zome/403043/20 "2007-05-08T02:26:54Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] My point is What a Dumb Fuck. The guy is almost killed, then makes a VERY public apology and very public pledge to have his drivers obey the posted speed limit. Then, THE VERY NEXT TIME HE GETS INTO A CAR, he violates the pledge, and his handlers and the cops must have known that reporters would hop into cars and follow him, and make note of it. [/QUOTE] Meh. I stand by my earlier assertion: there’s nothing to see here, folks. Like **E-Sabbath** said, there’s no good numbers to trust in the article. As has been pointed out by many others, that’s the flow in Jersey. 10mph over is actually slow. Yeah, I know, if you’re from just about anywhere else in the country, it doesn’t make much sense. But it does if you’re from Jersey. (Side note: I know nothing of his politics - I’ve been out of Jersey since '96. I’m not making any statements about whether he’s a good match for Jersey. All I am saying is that what was mentioned in this article doesn’t make me question the driving practices of the trooper.)