I think I’ve figured it out. Cosentino is, in fact, an alien who can control our weak human minds. He can actually perform levitation and transportation. All of this talk of video submissions, etc. is just part of his clever alien ruse.
Thanks to you and **JohnClay, **I have wasted so much time today reading his past threads. They’re not quite hilarious and they’re not quite frightening, but you can’t stop reading them. And the worst part is, as soon as you start to get bored and almost ready to go back to work, he’ll reference another past thread and start the whole fascination over again (e.g. “I don’t think I’m Satan anymore, as I did in another thread…”)
JohnClay, you are either thinking way too much, or not nearly enough. I can’t figure out which.
Why can’t it be both? One is a backup in case something goes wrong.
Oh, well if he said it in a book, it must be true, right? I mean, the fact that he’s making a fat stack of cash out of selling the book is just a coincidence probably.
I remember that book. Wasn’t it offered for 25 cents and a boxtop once in the back of a Superman comic?
Do you think Ross Jeffries can’t genuinely attract gorgeous women? Do you think his assistants and girlfriends are just from his money? (which he’d get from books and seminars) Why is he so popular if his techniques don’t work?
BTW apparently Tom Cruise’s character from Magnolia is based on Ross Jeffries though I haven’t really seen that movie.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0004140/quotes
If just any stagehand can be assistant why can’t a fan that wants to be an assistant?! I’m saying there could be 4 trained assistants. What other people are saying is that there is one trained assistant and 3 members of the public…
Unfortunately, things that aren’t always what they seem. It’s like magic.
“much greater risk of embarrassment, exposure, and failure for no benefit”
If what people in this thread said was true then it is possible that people would find out that the application process which 400 people applied for and was mentioned in the media was just a big scam!
I’m saying there would be four (not one) trained assistants. What risk is there that there would be for “embarrassment, exposure, and failure”?
Each could have signed confidentiality agreements and could be thoroughly trained.
Lemur866 thinks that any stagehand could have been an assistant. If a stagehand could be why not a fan assistant? Like I’ve been saying the magician is an expert mentalist and surely could know if a fan likes him a lot or if their rapport isn’t so good and the assistant wouldn’t obey him fully. Also with hypnotism he can see signs like eyelids about whether they’re fully obeying him.
Consider some things:
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they applied to be hypnotized assistants - if a stooge was involved why did he insist he wanted assistants? He could have just said he wanted a volunteer.
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he used video phone calls - this would be helpful for screening them out. If a stooge was involved it doesn’t matter if they were screened out.
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there were four fans on stage and he only made his final decision right at the end - if there was a stooge why bother having 3 others - this way it means 3 backups for the assistant role
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why bother doing hypnotism? It would make it a lot easier to see whether the assistants are following his commands since it is hard to fake being hypnotized. The eyelids were a sign that the magician mentioned on TV not on the stage. People in this thread insist that the eyelid sign was rehearsed - but it was a sign that only the TV viewers knew about and the TV viewers wouldn’t be able to notice it anyway so why would the stooge bother doing it?
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the levitation trick would have been VERY SIMPLE for the assistant to do. i.e. for most tricks it would involve a very talented assistant. Lemur866 thinks a stagehand could have just been an assistant.
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the teleportation wasn’t expected by the audience so if the chosen assistant wasn’t cooperating then they could have left that part out.
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the person in the deep meditation was being closely monitored by the magician the entire time. If they were starting to wake up and try to ruin the trick he could detach the wires or something and he could blame the end of the trick on the person getting out of the hypnotic trance.
But like I said the magician could tell if they are genuine fans who really want to be an assistant. Someone who genuinely wants to be an assistant wouldn’t deliberately ruin a trick. I mean Lemur866 thinks even a stagehand would be trustworthy enough. And they could have signed contracts to make sure they behaved themselves.
It’s easy to just jump on the boat and say “it was just a stooge and he lied about everything” but if you think about it carefully it looks like the 4 fan assistants could have actually been assistants. People keep on ignoring that. Why bother searching for assistants if they are in fact not assistants at all? It would be far more amazing for the audience if the person was a skeptic rather than a fan assistant!
He used to wear glasses and be a bit thin and now he’s 54. Why does he have gorgeous very young girlfriends?
Why are lots of people paying about 185 euros to see him?
http://www.realmanconference.com/Ross_Jeffries
Here are some of his products:
On that site it says that in Rolling Stone March 1998 he had a front page article called “The Sultan of Schwing — Sex Tips That Work!”
People here like to jump to conclusions without properly investigating things (though I was guilty of this in my first post on this thread)
lol
A question from back when you first told us about him: “Have you tried any of his techniques? Have they worked for you?”
I haven’t tried to pick up girls using the advice of any pick-up artist. Though at the age of 28 I eventually started dating for the first time and the girl ultimately became my wife.
I’m going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that article was a bit of send up.
See his wikipedia article:
He seems quite respected.
“In one corner is Paul Ross - aka Ross Jeffries - author of How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed, developer of the ‘speed seduction’ and organiser of $3,000-a-head seminars on how to seduce beautiful women no matter how unattractive you are.”
"All this has brought Jeffries fame in the form of interviews in Playboy, Rolling Stone and on late- night television. His website lists testimonials from grateful men who have met highly responsive ‘HBs’ (Jeffries slang for ‘hard bodies’) by using the techniques of the self-styled Chairman of the Broads. Jeffries, who says he only had sex twice in four years at UCLA because of his own awkwardness, promises clients: ‘You don’t get laid, I don’t get paid.’"
Jeffries may be hard to believe but that in itself doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I’m not saying you should automatically believe in it either though.
Yep. While of course claims get overblown, and there are some fraudsters, it’s ridiculous to characterize dating and seduction advice as woo. Many guys are much more successful with women than we’d expect based on the classic attributes of looks, age and wealth. And many more can become more successful, largely by breaking bad habits.
No one is doing this. It’s completely reasonable to dismiss the bizarre claims of PUAs as woo, because in the end all their NLP and other “speed seduction” echnique is a pair of magic slippers: their belief that they will be attractive to women makes them more confident, which in turn makes them more attractive. Everything else is either nonsense or creepy nonsense (e.g., forcing physical contact as soon as possible, “negging.”)
I would guess that it so often doesn’t work largely because the people to whom it is most appealing are just the sort of gross nerds who come off as desperate no matter how closely they stick to their purchased script. If they had the confidence to just be assertive and direct without coming off as a jerk they wouldn’t need the books and seminarsin the first place.
Still, being that weird pushy guy at the bar is better than investing in Rohypnol.
edit: But I’m still convinced: The guy in the OP is a real wizard.
Do you think these successful guys are using hypnotism, though, because that is what JohnClay is talking about?
4 people are less likely to keep a secret than 1. And there’s no need to since magicians use plants all the time. It’s what they do.