# Cosmos cancellation inevitable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 11, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547 "2014-06-11T16:17:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Fornicator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Fornicator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Fornicator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/21 "2014-06-12T15:09:43Z")
From Brian Cox’s Wikipedia entry: “He has stated in many interviews and in an episode of Wonders of the Universe[61] that when he was 12, the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan was a key factor in inspiring him to become a physicist” Oh, irony! ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/22 "2014-06-12T15:12:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The original _Cosmos_ was a product of the pre-cable, pre-internet early 1980’s. > It worked because it was unique, and the new _Cosmos_ wasn’t. Pre-internet, but not pre-cable, which was how I watched it. IMO, the new series, in comparison to the old, is dreadful. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/23 "2014-06-12T15:16:19Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > Pre-internet, but not pre-cable, which was how I watched it. > > IMO, the new series, in comparison to the old, is dreadful. That synthesizer music really made it feel space age-y. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/24 "2014-06-12T15:21:03Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > Pre-internet, but not pre-cable, which was how I watched it. > > IMO, the new series, in comparison to the old, is dreadful. You had PBS on cable in 1980? ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/25 "2014-06-12T15:31:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You had PBS on cable in 1980? Yes. It’s still the only way to watch it in most of Canada. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/26 "2014-06-12T15:46:08Z")
If we’re talking Brian Cox we have to talk about the spoofs: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tDkVS-AN4NU/maxresdefault.jpg "Wonders of The Universe Parody") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDkVS-AN4NU) > **[ItemFix - Social Video Factory](https://www.itemfix.com/?r=ll)** > > Social Video Factory ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/27 "2014-06-12T15:51:44Z")
Well, that’s this universe done. What do we do for an encore? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/28 "2014-06-12T16:32:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I think it will do well on DVD and streaming video when it’s complete and can be watched without commercials. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > It was [released yesterday](http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Spacetime-Neil-deGrasse-Tyson/dp/B00IWULQQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402510854&sr=8-1&keywords=cosmos+dvd). Yes, and it could have quite a robust life being shown in classrooms. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/29 "2014-06-14T00:58:29Z")
Well of course I’m heartbroken and so is my daughter. Anyone have some recommendations for similar shows that can be watched online? The best part about Cosmos was how everything was simplified and still interesting for those of us who knew most of what was being shown already. We already watched the original but I don’t think it held my 9 year old’s interest like the new version. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/30 "2014-06-14T02:32:31Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > If we’re talking Brian Cox we have to talk about the spoofs: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDkVS-AN4NU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDkVS-AN4NU) > [ItemFix - Social Video Factory](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e0_1306355775) This hotel is shit. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/31 "2014-06-14T02:56:55Z")
Brian Cox is foekin’ awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/32 "2014-06-14T03:36:29Z")
I really only knew the old Cosmos from the book. I liked the new one, I thought it stayed interesting to the last. NDGT remains respectable AFAIAC, and now he’s famous so there ya go. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/33 "2014-06-14T12:11:27Z")
The thing that really got me watching this new version of _ **Cosmos** _ was just how much our knowledge of the Universe has changed in the thirty-odd years since the original show came out. At the time, I was the Astronomy TA at my college, and I remember how baffled everyone was by the orbital dynamics of galaxies. We hadn’t yet confirmed the existence of exoplanets. And Sagan seemed to come down on the side of the closed, oscillating model of the Cosmos. Now we’ve found thousands of planets orbiting other stars, we know about dark matter and dark energy (still no idea of what they are and how they work, though), and it looks as though the Universe is flat and will keep on expanding at a speed faster than that of light forever. I wish I could stick around for another two or three hundred years just to see how things finally turn out! ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/34 "2014-06-14T12:32:49Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I sort of liked it. It didn’t thrill or excite me, but I learned a lot (not that I can remember any of that). Seemed to be 50% animation, though, which was sometimes a bit of a slog. This is totally how I felt about the series. I really wanted to love it, but it just left me dissatisfied overall, with only fleeting moments of awesomeness. The history of the scientists and the discoveries really bogged down the awe and wonder I thought the show should’ve been more heavy on. I found myself contemplating the 2.5D animation budget/production more as there was so much of that work to be done over anything else. And while I liked the style and execution that’s not gonna get anyone excited about the universe. Sagan balanced those parts much better in the original. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/35 "2014-06-14T19:48:45Z")
Once they started the blatant anti-Creationism stuff they were toast on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/36 "2014-06-14T19:58:51Z")
Fox and Fox News are two very different beasts that happen to share a name and owner. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/37 "2014-06-14T20:11:19Z")
I really like the visualizations. There’s some stuff I sorta know, but seeing it really helps. I loved seeing atoms with their electrons jumping from state to state. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/38 "2014-06-23T17:31:58Z")
Neil deGrasse Tyson v. the Right: Cosmos, Christians and the Battle for American Science > **[Neil deGrasse Tyson v. the Right: Cosmos, Christians and the Battle for...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/neil-degrasse-tyson-vs-the-right_b_5469180?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)** > > The religious right has been freaking out about Neil deGrasse Tyson's Cosmos for what feels like an eternity. And, while the theological complaints seem laughable for their rancor and predictability, it's time we thought harder about what they... ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/39 "2014-06-23T19:04:06Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > Neil deGrasse Tyson v. the Right: Cosmos, Christians and the Battle for American Science > > [Neil deGrasse Tyson v. the Right: \Cosmos,\ Christians and the Battle for American Science | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-mcelwee/neil-degrasse-tyson-vs-the-right_b_5469180.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592) What was the point of that? Who is freaking out about Cosmos? One creationist article written months ago and then to find further evidence we get links to books on [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) and Wikipedia. This Sean McElwee character should keep Neil deGrasse Tyson’s name off his keyboard if he’s going to use him to drum-up an excuse to complain that right wingers don’t like communism. Cosmos did a fine job making its case and doesn’t need manufactured nonsense like this to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cosmos-cancellation-inevitable/690547/40 "2014-06-23T20:14:05Z")
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