# Cost of socialism vs. non-socialism

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**Created:** [May 20, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cost-of-socialism-vs-non-socialism/787088 "2017-05-20T16:59:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cost-of-socialism-vs-non-socialism/787088/29 "2017-05-22T01:43:28Z")

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> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#):
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> What the hell are you talking about? In what way is hyper-capitalist Venezuela an example of socialism?

> [@Bricker is a Pile of Shit Sculpted into Human Shape](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bricker-is-a-pile-of-shit-sculpted-into-human-shape/783344/111):
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> Holy shit what an incredibly stupid thing to say. In what universe were Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot left-wingers?

You have this No True Scotsman logic whereby if something fails, or is bad, then it can’t be possibly be socialist or left-wing…because what is socialist or left-wing can only sail smoothly. Since Venezuela is in a shambles right now, it therefore “isn’t socialism.” Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were murderous tyrants, therefore they “aren’t left-wingers.”

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