# Costner haters sound off!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 4, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628 "2005-08-04T22:22:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/21 "2005-08-05T02:48:43Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I mostly hate Coster because of _13 Days_. His accent is typically awful (he’s the anti-Streep, when you think about it). It butchers the history of the Cuban Missile Crisis pretty badly, and so much of the action is altered JUST to give Costner’s character a place in the scene (and thus a place in history) he did not really occupy. And I seem to recall that in the film, a US spy plane is shot down over Cuba. Had that really happened, there would’ve been a war and we wouldn’t be talking about a “missile crisis.”

Wow. Talk about misinformed.

I’m sure [Major Rudolph Anderson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Anderson) wishes that you were right.

_13 Days_ was a reasonably accurate portrayal, although it took liberties just like any other film.

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**Author:** ![lhovis73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecd19e/32.png) [@lhovis73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lhovis73)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/22 "2005-08-05T02:51:14Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Wow. Talk about misinformed.
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> I’m sure [Major Rudolph Anderson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Anderson) wishes that you were right.
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> _13 Days_ was a reasonably accurate portrayal, although it took liberties just like any other film.

There’s a good joke on The Sopranos about this…Chris says (to paraphrase) “The Cuban Missile Crisis actually happened? I thought it was all bullshit, from that movie with Kevin Costner…”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/23 "2005-08-05T03:03:33Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Wow. Talk about misinformed.
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> I’m sure [Major Rudolph Anderson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Anderson) wishes that you were right.

K, that I was wrong about. Sorry.

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> _13 Days_ was a reasonably accurate portrayal, although it took liberties just like any other film.

Am I wrong that O’Donnell was in a shitload of scenes he would not have actually been in, basically directing the whole Cuban Missile Crisis, which he didn’t do? That’s what I recall reviews of the film saying.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/24 "2005-08-05T03:20:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Am I wrong that O’Donnell was in a shitload of scenes he would not have actually been in, basically directing the whole Cuban Missile Crisis, which he didn’t do? That’s what I recall reviews of the film saying.

Oh, that is absolutely the truth, but that doesn’t change the substance of the movie. A good bit of the dialogue is verbatim, and O’Donnell was given a larger part as a foil for exposition between the Kennedys.

I’m not saying that Costner didn’t turn in his usual Howdy Doody type wooden performance, but again, that takes nothing from the overall authenticity.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/25 "2005-08-05T04:40:22Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Oh, that is absolutely the truth, but that doesn’t change the substance of the movie. A good bit of the dialogue is verbatim, and O’Donnell was given a larger part as a foil for exposition between the Kennedys.
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> I’m not saying that Costner didn’t turn in his usual Howdy Doody type wooden performance, but again, that takes nothing from the overall authenticity.

I felt it did, because all of a sudden, actions the Kennedys took during the crisis are credited to Costner’s character. Since he produced the thing, it just struck me as tremendously self-serving. Maybe it’s a quibble. I don’t know if you would know what I meant if I said the whole thing felt like a “Mary Sue”…

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**Author:** ![Waterman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Waterman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waterman)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/26 "2005-08-05T06:01:56Z")

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As an actor under another person as director I think Costner has done some fine work including such gems as _Bull Durham_ and _Field of Dreams_. As director (and I believe producer) Costner has done some incredibly self-indulgent movies of which _Dances With Wolves_ is one of the worst (someone should have told him that being on the screen every single second is not necessary).

If I may, _Field of Dreams_ will always hold a special place in my heart for some very “different” reasons. My wife was dying of ALS at the time that the movie came out and it was truly an inspiration for her and something (that I’m not even sure about now after some 13 years) just clicked to the point where we visited the farm where the movie was shot. Later my wife went there with our kids and the entire cast was there and Kevin’s attention to my wife was truly a “nice” gesture on his part.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/27 "2005-08-05T15:17:18Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> his drab, monotonous, apathetic style .

Sorry I’m late to this thread, but I just saw it.

IM said it best, right away. He’s so boring. No personality, a big old cold fish. Blag.

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> Sir Rhosis}Now for someone who really runs funny, try Pierce Brosnan: Mr. Arm Pumper

:mad: Don’t you make fun of Pierce Brosnan!

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**Author:** ![The\_Coffee\_Drinker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c2a13f/32.png) [@The\_Coffee\_Drinker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Coffee_Drinker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/28 "2012-05-31T06:33:25Z")

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Three cheers for Kevin Costner aka “Captain Wimpy!” Then again, maybe not! ROFLOL!

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costner-haters-sound-off/315628/29 "2012-05-31T12:50:49Z")

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I’m a big Costner fan. I thought he was fantastic along with William Hurt in **Mr. Brooks.** Besides that and others mentioned in this thread, **No Way Out** was also suspensefully entertaining. So yeah, I also don’t get all the Costner hate.

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