# Costner's Robin Hood and scene stealing

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 8, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953 "2010-07-08T13:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/21 "2010-07-09T00:25:05Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Who relaxes by playing golf on the weekends.

The important thing is to persuade Natalie Portman to star in the movie as the young woman he pines for, mutely of course, in memory of happier days. He’ll contest for her affections with Alan Rickman, but in the end she’ll throw them both over for Bonnie Raitt.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/22 "2010-07-09T01:22:12Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> A movie about a baseball manager wouldn’t work as the player action would overshadow a leading role type manager.

There’s no crying in baseball!

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/23 "2010-07-09T12:44:16Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> The Sheriff steals all his scenes with Robin. And all his other scenes too.  
> The Moor steals all his scenes with Robin.  
> The Friar just about steals his scenes with Robin.  
> Marion steals all her scenes with Robin.  
> King Richard steals his scene from everyone.

Uh, you forgot “Guy of Gisborne steals his scenes with Robin.”

Actually, it’s been too long since I’ve seen this movie for me to remember if they have any scenes together or not. Still, we’re talking about Michael Wincott here. We can just as well say, “Michael Wincott steals all his scenes from everyone in every movie he’s ever been in ever.”

I hated _Robin Hood Prince of Thieves_, but there doesn’t exist a movie that is bad enough that it wouldn’t be worth watching if Michael Wincott were in it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/24 "2010-07-09T12:53:50Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> The important thing is to persuade Natalie Portman to star in the movie as the young woman he pines for, mutely of course, in memory of happier days. He’ll contest for her affections with Alan Rickman, but in the end she’ll throw them both over for Bonnie Raitt.

Good to see your Natalie Portman obsession continues apace. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/25 "2010-07-09T13:01:43Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Uh, you forgot “Guy of Gisborne steals his scenes with Robin.”
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> Actually, it’s been too long since I’ve seen this movie for me to remember if they have any scenes together or not. Still, we’re talking about Michael Wincott here. We can just as well say, “Michael Wincott steals all his scenes from everyone in every movie he’s ever been in ever.”
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> I hated _Robin Hood Prince of Thieves_, but there doesn’t exist a movie that is bad enough that it wouldn’t be worth watching if Michael Wincott were in it.

Yes, in the beginning when Robin catches them chasing after the young boy.  
“Might I have the pleasure of your name…before I have you run through?”

I love this movie.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/26 "2010-07-09T13:17:11Z")

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Costner was also good in _A Perfect World_, where his typical emotionally constipated style worked to his advantage.

As evidenced by the various movies cited, Costner isn’t really consistently bad, he just has a limited range. That and he was given too much freedom after the big box office returns of _Dances With Wolves_, which allowed him to make a couple of overly indulgent films.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/27 "2010-07-09T13:18:16Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> While I enjoyed Costner in “Silverado”, for me his one and only impressive performance as an actor was in “No Way Out.”
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> And he was perfectly cast in “The Big Chill.”  
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I thought he was a bit stiff in that last movie…

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/28 "2010-07-09T14:11:28Z")

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Alan Rickman stole the film from everyone.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/29 "2010-07-09T14:55:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Good to see your Natalie Portman obsession continues apace. 😃

:mad:

You were supposed to object to Bonnie Raitt, damn it!

Geez, if the Tolkien crew won’t see my setups, what’s the point?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/30 "2010-07-09T15:06:29Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Golfers can be 50ish without problems and baseball managers can be quite old. But there are only two really good golf movies for the general public, Caddyshack and Tin Cup, and I don’t see that number as increasing. A movie about a baseball manager wouldn’t work as the player action would overshadow a leading role type manager.

No love for Baggar Vance?

> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Alan Rickman stole the film from everyone.

Alan Rickman steals ALL films from everyone.  
Even Will Scarlet (Slater) stole all his scenes from Robin.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/31 "2010-07-09T15:10:44Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> A movie about a baseball manager wouldn’t work as the player action would overshadow a leading role type manager.

As **TWDuke** notes, the manager character in _A League of Their Own_ is pretty good. He’s not _the_ leading role, but he’s a big part of the movie’s success.

How about _The Bronx is Burning_? Manager Billy Martin is one of three main characters (with Reggie Jackson and George Steinbrenner), and the Martin character is the best of the three.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/32 "2010-07-09T15:11:01Z")

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> [@Lionne](#):
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> Yes, in the beginning when Robin catches them chasing after the young boy.  
> “Might I have the pleasure of your name…before I have you run through?”
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> I love this movie.

“Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe?”

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/33 "2010-07-09T15:17:35Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> The Sheriff steals all his scenes with Robin. And all his other scenes too.  
> The Moor steals all his scenes with Robin.  
> [snip]  
> King Richard steals his scene from everyone.

Played by Alan Rickman, Morgan Freeman, and Sean Connery.

Given the rather middling ambition of the flick as a whole…when you’ve got those 3, you can’t help but get some stolen scenes…

Also, these 3, specifically, are the main villain, the movie’s major addition to the story, and the King, who was seriously stunt-cast and popped up as a surprise at the end. There’d be something very wrong if they didn’t steal their respective scenes.

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/34 "2010-07-09T17:25:36Z")

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He was good in Mr Brooks - of course he was playing a psycho, but still

I also liked him in that Graceland movie…

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/35 "2010-07-09T17:27:49Z")

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I haven’t actually seen every baseball and golf movie, I must confess. And yes, Hanks was good in LOTO

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/36 "2010-07-09T17:54:23Z")

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I can’t remember _anything_ Marion did in that movie aside from scream out “ROBIN!”

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/37 "2010-07-09T20:39:05Z")

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To Sir Guy: “He’s stealing my horses, you fool!”

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/costners-robin-hood-and-scene-stealing/545953/38 "2010-07-10T03:16:58Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Costner is too old now to convincingly play a another star athlete, even a baseball player.

> **[Ian Millar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Millar)**
>
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