# cougar58 has been banned II **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 11, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523 "2014-01-11T17:17:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/81 "2014-01-16T02:45:10Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > There has been a rule, sort of, about not confining the majority of one’s posts to the Pit. respectfully, why? Cougar started a thread, maintained it, always responded to whoever posted whatever dissention, and, so far as I was concerned, behaved with discretion and discipline. there was no actual reason for deletion…except… the mods didn’t like him. It is their board, their rules, their discretion. You don’t like it…leave. ---
**Author:** ![Laowai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Laowai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laowai)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/82 "2014-01-16T03:03:45Z")
I believe I’m right in thinking this was your earlier complaint about Authonomy, Crucible? You seem to see a lot of ‘personal’ in the decisions of forum moderators, I notice. It’s always a judgement call, of course, but wouldn’t you say that provided the person banned is regarded, by the majority of the users of the forum, as a nuisance who needs to be got rid of, then the moderators are doing their job, and doing their job well? Or do you feel there should be some other criterion of judgement? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/83 "2014-01-16T03:12:13Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Uh, what? > [@CarnalK](#): > > Like I said, you should just stop doing this. It’s ridiculous. Yes. I don’t think it’s shedding any light on the issue anyway. > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > 3). I don’t know, but I suspect that the pro pit bull folks were complaining long and loud about **cougar58** and her posts. Hitting the “Report post” button may have created more noise than usual, and that would have brought more attention down on the thread. Again: it was a Pit thread. In the Pit we really don’t act on people who won’t shut up. > [@](#): > > 1. as far as I can tell, her comment about poisoning dogs was the only thing that was out of bounds, and that was certainly a warnable offense. However, IMO it doesn’t rise to the level of banning. There were a couple of other warnings. The poisoning thing was the last warning before **cougar58** was suspended. > [@Laowai](#): > > I strongly suspect the mods knew the Cougar58 ID to be a sock of another, more regular, user and banned it for that reason. > > Unable to be sure enough to make the accusation, other reasons were given. Wrong. **cougar58** was banned for the reasons we gave in the announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Laowai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4491bb/32.png) [@Laowai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laowai)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/84 "2014-01-16T03:21:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Wrong. cougar58 was banned for the reasons we gave in the announcement. Fair enough. But the behaviour I see as detailed in the announcement looks a lot like the behaviour of a discredited ID being run down by an individual, probably because he has a new and permanent ID he or she wishes to remain credible. Cougar showed a wide variety of interests. Suddenly his interests are reduced to one, and one alone. Moreover, having so reduced it, he lets loose though already on a caution, suggesting the ID was expendable and the user was indulging himself. I’m not questioning the rationale behind the banning. Seems reasonable enough. I’m curious as to the cause of the behaviour that led to the banning. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/85 "2014-01-16T04:35:26Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > respectfully, why? To encourage those who post to be active members of the community rather than just be here to gripe. It’s from when comments on how the board is run went in the Pit. I don’t know if was ever codified or if it still applies. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/86 "2014-01-16T04:37:30Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > There has been a rule, sort of, about not confining the majority of one’s posts to the Pit. No, there isn’t. People who spend that much of their time in the Pit tend not to last very long because they usually end up acting like jerks, but there’s no rule against it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/87 "2014-01-16T04:42:57Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yes. I don’t think it’s shedding any light on the issue anyway. I’m done with that. Anyone who hasn’t, by now, picked up on my intentions probably never will. Probably one of those times when I say something which makes perfect sense to me but leaves just about everyone else like “huh?”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/88 "2014-01-16T04:43:58Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, there isn’t. People who spend that much of their time in the Pit tend not to last very long because they usually end up acting like jerks, but there’s no rule against it. No longer applies, then. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/89 "2014-02-04T15:04:21Z")
> [@Laowai](#): > > I believe I’m right in thinking this was your earlier complaint about Authonomy, Crucible? > > You seem to see a lot of ‘personal’ in the decisions of forum moderators, I notice. > > It’s always a judgement call, of course, but wouldn’t you say that provided the person banned is regarded, by the majority of the users of the forum, as a nuisance who needs to be got rid of, then the moderators are doing their job, and doing their job well? > > Or do you feel there should be some other criterion of judgement? I’d be interested in what your response is to this, Marley. What do you think Laowai’s motive is for being here? If you are thinking that he is carrying a feud over to SDMB that began elsewhere, you would be correct. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523/90 "2014-02-04T15:33:09Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > I’d be interested in what your response is to this, Marley. My response is that this thread has been inactive for three weeks, so I have no idea why you bumped it. Whatever the problem is, it can’t be urgent. > [@](#): > > What do you think Laowai’s motive is for being here? If you are thinking that he is carrying a feud over to SDMB that began elsewhere, you would be correct. I rarely know anyone’s motive for being on this board. Unless they’re spamming or trolling it’s usually not my concern. I did wonder what **Laowai** was talking about (because it sounded like an off-board issue) and why he was involved in this discussion was posting in ATMB so much. I don’t think the two of you have interacted since then. So I’ll advise _both of you_ not to bring any off-board problems over here, and with that, I’ll close this thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cougar58-has-been-banned-ii/678523.md?page=4)