# Could anti-healthcare reform rhetoric backfire on the Republicans? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899 "2010-03-18T16:05:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/161 "2010-03-21T14:34:55Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > All of the above was accompanied by yet more signs threatening violence. And anti-semitic slurs hurled at Anthony Weiner of New York, including a [note signed with a swastika](http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/03/make-that-the-nas-tea-party.html). It’s very clear that some of the alleged “anti-healthcare reform” activists are actually just using this as an excuse to demonstrate their innate bigotries. They’re not opposed to changing the status quo regarding healthcare, they’re opposed to any progress whatsoever. They’d be happy to be back in 1950 when those pesky negros and Jews and homosexuals and women knew their place and rich, white men ran things for their own benefit, as it should be. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/162 "2010-03-21T14:40:45Z")
Enormous progress has been made since 1950. Now, the rich men who run things for their own benefit are not exclusively white. Just mostly. ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/163 "2010-03-21T17:58:34Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > [Tom Coburn prays for the death of Robert Byrd](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/20/AR2009122002872.html?hpid=topnews) Thanks for the information. ---
**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/164 "2010-03-22T14:44:19Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > No man, no. He’s right, and he’s making an important point. There is a difference between saying “No one should do X” and “X should not be allowed by the system.” I can say the second, while at the same time doing X, without being a hypocrite. I’d be a hypocrite if I said the first sentence while at the same time doing X. Doesn’t it rather depend on **why** something shouldn’t be allowed by the system though? Is it a moral objection to X or what? ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/165 "2010-03-22T21:13:00Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Because he takes the money. He’s being hypocritical. Don’t they have a class on this stuff in lawyer school? > > “I think abortions are wrong.” “I’d like to get an abortion please.” \<- hypocrite > “Eating animals is wrong.” “What, we only have hotdogs in the house? I’ll take two.” \<-hypocrite > “Government bailouts are tyranny!!1” “I’d like the government to pay my mortgage, plz.” \<- hypocrite > > Honestly, dude. I know you think you’re good at arguing stuff, but looking at X and calling it Y isn’t exactly stellar debating. How about another analogy, then? Most liberals were against the Bush taxcuts. Myself included. Come tax time though, I (and I imagine 99.99% of the liberals on this board) still took advantage of them. Sure, I could’ve taken a principled stand against them and sent the government extra money. I didn’t. Am I a hypocrite? Is everyone else that did the same one too? I hope the tax cuts get repealed after the economy picks up. I hope I (and everyone else) go back to their old tax rates. In the meantime, I’m just taking the hand I was dealt with. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/166 "2010-03-22T21:22:03Z")
> [@YamatoTwinkie](#): > > Sure, I could’ve . . . sent the government extra money. I didn’t. Am I a hypocrite? Is everyone else that did the same one too? I’ve done that. The bastards send it back. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/167 "2010-03-22T21:46:55Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Exhibit A as to why attorneys suck. Personal insults aren’t allowed in this forum, or any part of this site except The BBQ Pit. Please don’t do this again. ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899/168 "2010-03-22T21:48:42Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I’ve done that. The bastards send it back. Fine then, I could have not reported some of my other deductions to compensate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-anti-healthcare-reform-rhetoric-backfire-on-the-republicans/532899.md?page=8)