# Could any city capture the MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL championships at one time?

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**Created:** [August 25, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219 "2008-08-25T18:18:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/41 "2008-08-27T17:46:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
What cities have done all four?  
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New York  
Chicago  
Boston  
Detroit  
Miami  
Philadelphia

LA - only if you count the Anaheim Ducks

I believe that’s it.

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/42 "2008-08-27T17:49:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Key Lime Guy]  
New York  
Chicago  
Boston  
Detroit  
Miami  
Philadelphia

LA - only if you count the Anaheim Ducks

I believe that’s it.  
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How does Miami have an NHL title?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/43 "2008-08-27T17:53:56Z")

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I think Dallas has a not small shot of doing it, but it isn’t a great one.

The Rangers seem to be improving. The Cowboys are as good as they’ve been in a while. The Stars are climbing again. The Mavs seem to be sliding a bit though.

But the Rangers have quite a ways to climb.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/44 "2008-08-27T17:55:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Key Lime Guy]  
New York  
Chicago  
Boston  
Detroit  
Miami  
Philadelphia

LA - only if you count the Anaheim Ducks

I believe that’s it.  
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Excuse my ignorance, but I wasn’t even aware that Miami had an NHL team, much less one that had won a title. When did this happen?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/45 "2008-08-27T18:33:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
Excuse my ignorance, but I wasn’t even aware that Miami had an NHL team, much less one that had won a title. When did this happen?  
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Perhaps he’s confused the Florida Panthers with the Tampa Bay Lightning.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/46 "2008-08-27T18:38:07Z")

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[QUOTE=5-HT]  
I, like all lions fans, just keep believing that eventually they have to accidently stumble upon a winning formula. We just got to hope the other three stay strong until then.  
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Yeah assuming the fundamental structure of the universe hold out _until then_ as well

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/47 "2008-08-27T19:00:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
Perhaps he’s confused the Florida Panthers with the Tampa Bay Lightning.  
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Is Ft. Lauderdale considered part of Miami? (I seriously don’t know. I always thought they were 2 separate cities)

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/48 "2008-08-27T19:08:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
Is Ft. Lauderdale considered part of Miami? (I seriously don’t know. I always thought they were 2 separate cities)  
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They technically play in Sunrise, but my understanding is that it’s close enough to Miami that people could consider them Miami’s NHL team.

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**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/49 "2008-08-27T21:10:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
They technically play in Sunrise, but my understanding is that it’s close enough to Miami that people could consider them Miami’s NHL team.  
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Yes that was my reasoning, but my memory was faulty: The Florida Panthers won the Eastern Conference but not the Cup (in 96).

Strike Miami from the list.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/50 "2008-08-28T03:40:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Key Lime Guy]  
New York  
Chicago  
Boston  
Detroit  
Miami  
Philadelphia

LA - only if you count the Anaheim Ducks

I believe that’s it.  
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Well, Detroit has only done it if you are including championships before the Super Bowl, which is pretty reasonable to do.

In the last 50 years, only the Red Wings, Tigers, and Pistons have won championships, all doing so more than once.

If the Lions actually developed into a good team, we would have a reasonable chance. Actually, this last year or so, I had real hope 3 out of the 4 teams _would_ win.

Only the Red Wings did.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/51 "2008-11-24T02:31:31Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Well, the Giants have a guaranteed loss on November 23. Their trip back to Phoenix won’t be the same. The Cardinals will beat them and beat them bad. Kinda like Eli Manning’s game againt the Vikings.

I’ve been waiting months to to say:

HA HA!

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/52 "2008-11-24T03:30:59Z")

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NYC would have the best chance. They have 2 teams in every sport besides basketball (which they will have if the Nets ever relocate), and their teams always have the resources to put together a championship-caliber team.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/53 "2008-11-24T04:02:13Z")

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> [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](#):
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> New York  
> Chicago  
> Boston  
> Detroit  
> Miami  
> Philadelphia
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> LA - only if you count the Anaheim Ducks

I think you’d have to count the Ducks. There’s really no meaningful separation between Anaheim and LA; it’s all one gigantic city.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/54 "2008-11-24T11:50:00Z")

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Yeah, but the actual fanbases are separated by distinct county lines. The cities of Los Angeles and Anaheim border each other, but the areas served are _totally_ different, as are the demographics, culture and geopolitics of their fans. Spend one day in Hollywood and the next day in Irvine and you will see the difference, big time.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/55 "2008-11-24T14:31:00Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> They technically play in Sunrise, but my understanding is that it’s close enough to Miami that people could consider them Miami’s NHL team.

I’d agree, Miami-Ft. Lauderdale is one area.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/56 "2008-11-24T14:32:53Z")

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> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Yeah, but the actual fanbases are separated by distinct county lines. The cities of Los Angeles and Anaheim border each other, but the areas served are _totally_ different, as are the demographics, culture and geopolitics of their fans. Spend one day in Hollywood and the next day in Irvine and you will see the difference, big time.

You could say the same about the five burroughs in New York, so I’m not sure if that’s a compelling reason to consider them distinct.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/57 "2008-11-24T14:35:18Z")

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> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Yeah, but the actual fanbases are separated by distinct county lines. The cities of Los Angeles and Anaheim border each other, but the areas served are _totally_ different, as are the demographics, culture and geopolitics of their fans. Spend one day in Hollywood and the next day in Irvine and you will see the difference, big time.

New Jersey’s different from Manhattan, but we’re giving New York credit for winning the Super Bowl. The Patriots don’t even play in Boston. Actually, the LAKERS don’t play in LA, either; they play in Inglewood, which is sure as hell a lot different from Hollywood (it’s in LA County, at least.) All big cities vary from subcity to subcity, that’s not unique to the Los Angeles area.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/58 "2008-11-24T15:08:57Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> New Jersey’s different from Manhattan, but we’re giving New York credit for winning the Super Bowl. The Patriots don’t even play in Boston. Actually, the LAKERS don’t play in LA, either; they play in Inglewood, which is sure as hell a lot different from Hollywood (it’s in LA County, at least.) All big cities vary from subcity to subcity, that’s not unique to the Los Angeles area.

He’s talking about fanbases, not the stadium locations. (In support of your point, don’t forget Dallas; the Cowboys currently play in Irving, and will move to Arlington starting next season. Also Washington, where the Redskins play in Maryland.)

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/59 "2008-11-24T15:22:41Z")

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Just as a sidenote, if you count Major League Soccer, then between July 2007 and July 2008, Boston/New England had teams in four of the five major league championship games (winning two of them). It’s still very very unlikely, but I’d them the best chance of pulling off a four or five -league sweep in the next few years. Thanks to revenue, Sox will always be contenders; Celtics are favorites to repeat this year; Patriots and Revolution are going to be in the hunt at least. All it takes is for the Bruins to stumble into the playoffs and have a goalie get hot at the right time – stranger things have happened (/waves hand with fingers crossed, /spits, /turns three times, /makes other gestures to ward off ill-luck)

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-any-city-capture-the-mlb-nba-nfl-and-nhl-championships-at-one-time/461219/60 "2008-11-24T15:24:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> All it takes is for the Bruins to stumble into the playoffs and have a goalie get hot at the right time

Don’t look now, but the Bruins are leading the East. No, seriously.

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