# Could "Freewebs" possibly find employees that are even stupider than this?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 17, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067 "2006-05-17T03:09:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/1 "2006-05-17T03:09:28Z")

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Some folks say that I promote my website too much on this message board. (Fine if you feel that way, pit me for it).  
Anyway, what happened to me recently warrants my mentioning it.

Here’s a page from my website:  
[http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm](http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm)

Here’s a page from a “freewebs” site:  
[http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htm](http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htm)

I sent an E-Mail to their abuse department about the outright plagiarism and the 3 “hotlinked” graphics they are using. (and I used the specific URL’s that are listed in this posting).

Their E-Mail reply stated that:

> [@](#):
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> We could not find the content you specified. Please contact us with more specific information about the content and the location of the content so that we can better assist you.

Oh and I sure did send those freewebs folks a reply. Among other things I said that although both sites use Comic Sans fonts, the offending site uses a slightly larger font size and different color and so it is “easy” to see how they could have overlooked this. :rolleyes:

What dumbfucks !!!

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH !!! :mad:

(I think my keepers are bringing my medication once again.)

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/2 "2006-05-17T03:16:44Z")

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> [@wolf\_meister](#):
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> Here’s a page from my website:  
> [http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm](http://www.1728.com/pytproof.htm)
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> Here’s a page from a “freewebs” site:  
> [http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htm](http://www.freewebs.com/jaclynandalexis/proof3.htm)

Your page lacks an Ozzie background midi.  
How do you expect us to learn any Geometry  
Without an Ozzie background midi?

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/3 "2006-05-17T03:29:03Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Your page lacks an Ozzie background midi.  
> How do you expect us to learn any Geometry  
> Without an Ozzie background midi?

And butterflies. Don’t forget the butterflies.

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**Author:** ![peri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@peri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peri)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/4 "2006-05-17T03:38:36Z")

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But their site has pretty flowers and fluttering butterflies and everything. How can you say they’re stealing your content when anyone can see it’s so different?

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**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/5 "2006-05-17T03:41:02Z")

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> [@](#):
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> the 3 “hotlinked” graphics they are using.

This is why goatse.cx was invented.

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/6 "2006-05-17T03:58:23Z")

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Thanks for all those helpful replies.  
Geez … the butterflies :smack: … and of course - when you think of Euclid you _immediately_ think of the Ozzie background midi. :smack:

Wow, I owe those freewebs employees a serious heartfelt apology. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/7 "2006-05-17T04:02:37Z")

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Well, I bookmarked your site.

Because the midi “Crazy Train” sounds cheesy.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/8 "2006-05-17T04:15:30Z")

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This is a copyright violation and could be pursued in court. More to the point, it could be the grounds for sending them a letter mentioning the fact that we have copyright laws in this country and a legal system to make sure they are obeyed. For extra credit, send the letter on a law office’s stationary, complete with letterhead.

On the bright side, your page is better designed than that of the plagarist.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/9 "2006-05-17T04:19:33Z")

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> [@peri](#):
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> But their site has pretty flowers and fluttering butterflies and everything. How can you say they’re stealing your content when anyone can see it’s so different?

Ya know, I like butterflies. I have butterfly rubber stamps, paper punches, stickers, and note paper. However, there’s a time and a place for butterflies, and websites about math proofs are not such places!

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/10 "2006-05-17T04:55:56Z")

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Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That’s considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/11 "2006-05-17T05:05:44Z")

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Come on, the second link is much better. I mean, the first one didn’t make me laugh at all, but the revised version was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![slaphead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@slaphead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slaphead)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/12 "2006-05-17T11:35:54Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That’s considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.

Well, it’s certainly a good way of punishing the offenders, but it can be little rough on innocent web users. I remember browsing a thread on something relatively innocuous on fark, with a few funny graphics sprinkled in among the huorous lines of text when suddenly :eek: .

I’m a moderately broad-minded chap, but an animated gif of a homosexual three-way is still a long way into my ‘bleach eyes AND brain’ zone.

Hijacked the thread pretty spectacularly too…

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/13 "2006-05-17T12:05:12Z")

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> [@slaphead](#):
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> it can be little rough on innocent web users.

Ok, replace the porn with a picture that says “freeweb supports plagiarism”.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/14 "2006-05-17T13:18:56Z")

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Send 'em a takedown. Here’s how to do it.  
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online\_Copyright\_Infringement\_Liability\_Limitation\_Act](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act)

Walks you through the whole procedure, looks like.

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/15 "2006-05-17T14:07:26Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> …For extra credit, send the letter on a law office’s station **e** ry, complete with letterhead…

Your answer to plagiarism is to respond with forgery? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/16 "2006-05-17T14:24:13Z")

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Obviously, your site needs butterflies. Man, the hell? And the cute mouse pointer zappers. Gah! I couldn’t stand it.

Luck to you with these guys.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/17 "2006-05-17T14:29:02Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Change the names of your graphics, and in place of the old files put copies of frightening pornography. That’s considered the proper approach to dealing with such bandwidth theft. Miss Manners wrote about it last week.

I agree, but I’d change the graphics to say something like, “Freewebs sucks” rather than pornography.

–FCOD

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/18 "2006-05-17T14:42:15Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> Your answer to plagiarism is to respond with forgery? :dubious:

I think you were whooshed. I read it as get a lawyer to send a cease and desist letter, but it does take some reading between the lines. I’d probably have phrased it similarly, so if that’s not what **Derleth** meant, I connected the wrong dots.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/19 "2006-05-17T14:46:19Z")

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The rip off page is now unavailable.

All Hail the Power of the Dope!

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-freewebs-possibly-find-employees-that-are-even-stupider-than-this/357067/20 "2006-05-17T15:19:59Z")

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Thanks **Zebra**  
Yes the transgressors have now met their comeuppance !!!  
No doubt they received “The Word” that the Power of the SDMB would slowly but inexorably crush them.  
Plus my use of the word “disembowel” in my second E-Mail really helped get my point across. 😃  
Now the 1 true website page remains. Sadly, it is the “sans butterfly” webpage.  
Let us pause a moment for those butterflies that have passed away from the land of cyberspace.

Okay enough of that crap. Let’s get back to business?  
Does .999… _ **really** _ equal 1?  
Is George W Bush the worst president ever?  
When is Mars going to appear as big as the Full Moon? (It happens every year around late August I think).

But seriously folks, thanks for all your replies. This was a Pit thread that was loads of fun. Thanks all. 🙂

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