# Could Hillary be too sick to run for/serve as president? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 23, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251 "2015-09-23T00:21:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/21 "2015-09-23T22:33:12Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > the Clinton-bashing ™ industry is a bad waste of trees (and bandwidth for you e-book downloaders) For those of you who aren’t old enough to remember the Clinton presidency, they were accused of things that would make any accusation lobbed against the Obamas to be kindergarten stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/22 "2015-09-23T23:44:44Z")
This is exactly why I’m on record as saying that I didn’t want Hillary to run. The obscene mindless hate for the Clintons is going to quadruple if Hillary becomes President. We’ll be subject to it every single day for the next eight years. Nothing she’ll ever do will be sufficient to overcome the smears. And then they’ll work untiringly to blacken her administration retroactively. It’ll be hate, hate, hate and we’ll all suffer. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/23 "2015-09-24T00:26:42Z")
Obama’s managed to get a lot of good shit done, especially over the last year, despite the endless smearing, sneering, resentment, and hindrance. At least Repubs won’t be posting images of Hillary eating watermelon. > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > We’ll be subject to it every single day for the next eight years. I saw what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/24 "2015-09-24T00:36:59Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The most amusing part is getting exactly the same stuff from both the Republican talking heads \*and \*the Sanders camp. When did the Sanders claim that Hilary is second guessing her campaign because she’s had a series of strokes in the last few months? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/25 "2015-09-24T01:06:27Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > This is exactly why I’m on record as saying that I didn’t want Hillary to run. The obscene mindless hate for the Clintons is going to quadruple if Hillary becomes President. We’ll be subject to it every single day for the next eight years. Nothing she’ll ever do will be sufficient to overcome the smears. And then they’ll work untiringly to blacken her administration retroactively. It’ll be hate, hate, hate and we’ll all suffer. No matter who the democrats put up they will have to deal with irrational hatred. Having said that, why is speculating that a 67 year old could be having serious health issues considered controversial? Rick Perry had serious back issues that partly screwed up his campaign (he was on major painkillers which may have contributed to some of his gaffes). ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/26 "2015-09-24T01:44:09Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Having said that, why is speculating that a 67 year old could be having serious health issues considered controversial? The book discussed in the OP isn’t “speculating”, it’s lying. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/27 "2015-09-24T01:55:00Z")
I stopped believing anything anyone said about Hilary Clinton, as well as Barack Obama, without three pieces of documentary evidence years ago. (Actually, I don’t believe much of anything about anyone, unless I hear the speech, read the bill, see the photograph.) > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > This is exactly why I’m on record as saying that I didn’t want Hillary to run. The obscene mindless hate for the Clintons is going to quadruple if Hillary becomes President. We’ll be subject to it every single day for the next eight years. Nothing she’ll ever do will be sufficient to overcome the smears. And then they’ll work untiringly to blacken her administration retroactively. It’ll be hate, hate, hate and we’ll all suffer. I hoped for a while that the Democrats would find a nice, straight, white, Southern Christian boy to run, and maybe ratchet down the hate a couple of notches. Because that worked out _ **so well** _ last time, didn’t it? Really, after this summer, it was clear to me that nothing would ease the virulent hatred boiling over in the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/28 "2015-09-24T02:59:09Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > This is exactly why I’m on record as saying that I didn’t want Hillary to run. The obscene mindless hate for the Clintons is going to quadruple if Hillary becomes President. We’ll be subject to it every single day for the next eight years. Nothing she’ll ever do will be sufficient to overcome the smears. And then they’ll work untiringly to blacken her administration retroactively. It’ll be hate, hate, hate and we’ll all suffer. Hate, hate, hate is a given. There isn’t a Democrat out there that the conservatives won’t portray as the worst president ever if he or she gets elected. At least with Hillary Clinton, they’re used up all the good material over the years. So a Clinton administration would probably get the least amount of hate of any Democratic presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/29 "2015-09-24T03:02:40Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Entertaining in a way, though. The most amusing part is getting exactly the same stuff from both the Republican talking heads \*and \*the Sanders camp. cite? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/30 "2015-09-24T03:50:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > At least with Hillary Clinton, they’re used up all the good material over the years. So a Clinton administration would probably get the least amount of hate of any Democratic presidency. I’d like to believe that. I don’t. Too much baggage, too many lies already believed by too many people. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/31 "2015-09-24T05:07:55Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > cite? Well, given that a self-described Sanders supporter was carefully JAQing about it as the op of this thread, this thread is the cite, yes? Is it true that she is a lizard lesbian overlord? _Could_ be. Would be interesting if true. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/32 "2015-09-24T05:54:52Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Well, given that a self-described Sanders supporter was carefully JAQing about it as the op of this thread, this thread is the cite, yes? Not really. Only if **Wesley Clark** is actually someone in “the Sanders camp,” instead of just some dude on a message board. “The Sanders camp” indicates an insider, or perhaps a group of organized supporters. (What ever happened to the real Wesley Clark, anyway? He had such potential and then… _bupkis_.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/33 "2015-09-24T06:03:20Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’d like to believe that. I don’t. Too much baggage, too many lies already believed by too many people. But that’s her strength. The lies about her are twenty years old. They’re weak. Anyone else is going to have to face fresh new lies. That’s why Hillary Clinton scares the conservatives. She’s already survived the strongest attacks they can throw at her. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/34 "2015-09-24T07:01:12Z")
She’s survived the strongest truths they could throw at her and her husband, never mind the lies. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/35 "2015-09-24T12:27:03Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Not really. Only if **Wesley Clark** is actually someone in “the Sanders camp,” instead of just some dude on a message board. “The Sanders camp” indicates an insider, or perhaps a group of organized supporters. … This seems to me to be convenient definition to create. Lawd knows I am not the one to defend **ElvisL1ves** , but FWIW my read of the comment is not one that implies it comes out of the mouths of Sanders’ inner circle any more than claiming that Ed Klein is part of the official GOP inner circle. Certainly the only place I was exposed to this latest Ed Klein fan-ficiton was by way of a Sanders supporter JAQing about it. The official Sanders inner circle is very much high road. No debate. Led by the man himself who I may not think would be either an effective general election candidate nor an effective President but who without question is a man who I respect greatly. Quite a few of Sanders’ supporters … leave it at “not.” ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/36 "2015-09-24T12:58:47Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > … but FWIW my read of the comment is not one that implies it comes out of the mouths of Sanders’ inner circle … I think you are alone in your read on this comment. However, I also think Elvis will clutch at it since she can’t actually find a cite of someone from Bernie’s inner circle suggesting that Hilary is rethinking her campaign because she’s suffered several strokes, recently. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/37 "2015-09-24T13:58:51Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > However, I also think Elvis will clutch at it since she can’t actually find a cite of someone from Bernie’s inner circle suggesting that Hilary is rethinking her campaign because she’s suffered several strokes, recently. I didn’t say that, only that this is _the kind of_ silly, hateful personal denunciations we so often get from the Sanders camp, including in this forum, btw, are indistinguishable from the kind we started getting from the Republican talking heads for the last twenty years. I’ll add that we can, and need to, do better than that, hmm? > [@DSeid](#): > > The official Sanders inner circle is very much high road. No debate. So is the official Clinton inner circle, and always has been. But the _official_ Sanders _inner_ circle is not the set of people under discussion. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/38 "2015-09-24T14:03:03Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > This is exactly why I’m on record as saying that I didn’t want Hillary to run. The obscene mindless hate for the Clintons is going to quadruple if Hillary becomes President. So you’re ready to let the terrorists rule us? That shit is one of the reasons we \*do \*need her to win - to show that hate cannot win. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/39 "2015-09-24T14:05:26Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I’m a Sanders supporter but have no problem with Hillary as president. I hope, and think, you’re in the majority then. But it isn’t unanimous, not nearly. > [@](#): > > The fact that Biden seems to suddenly be interested in running He is? Is there anything that makes you think so other than that there are a number of people talking about it? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/40 "2015-09-24T14:16:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I didn’t say that, only that this is _the kind of_ silly, hateful personal denunciations we so often get from the Sanders camp Cite? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251.md?page=3)