# Could Hillary be too sick to run for/serve as president? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 23, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251 "2015-09-23T00:21:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/41 "2015-09-24T14:18:50Z")
> **[2016 Bernie Sanders (D-VT) campaign for POTUS thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=755599)** > > \[The AP is reporting that he’s gonna run: \](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_DEM\_2016\_SANDERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-04-28-18-01-14)Aye, I do indeed think he will add quite a bit of metaphorical... > **[Would Bernie Sanders make a good POTUS? Why or why not?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=767862)** > > I’m not asking whether he has a snowball’s chance of being elected, mind you. Take that to a different thread. Nor is this simply a poll on whether you agree with his political views/agenda; even if you do, you might believe he would make a worse... B ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/42 "2015-09-24T14:21:53Z")
It’s not at all the same kind of thing from the Sanders camp. The Republicans attack Clinton for being too liberal. When Sanders criticizes her, it’s for being too conservative. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/43 "2015-09-24T14:24:01Z")
The Sanders _camp_ is much larger than Sanders, and at times doesn’t even include him. He’s been an adult and so has she. The most ardent followers, not quite so much. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/44 "2015-09-24T14:51:53Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I didn’t say that, only that this is _the kind of_ silly, hateful personal denunciations we so often get from the Sanders camp, … \ You didn’t, in [the post which I quoted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18711421#post18711421) and in which I asked for an example, say that this is “kind of like” the stuff you get from the Sanders’ camp. You said, and I quote, that it was “exactly the same stuff”. It’s not. And your attempt to impugn Sanders supporters, with a general reference to opprobrium issuing from the Sanders’ camp undermines your subsequent attempt to insist that we should do better. And I continue to be unimpressed by claims that “camp” refers to every rando with an opinion, not someone officially connected to a specific campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/45 "2015-09-24T16:12:26Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > She’s survived the strongest truths they could throw at her and her husband, never mind the lies. Like what? Do you feel the Bill Clinton really was running a cocaine ring while he was governor? Do you feel Hillary Clinton really did murder Vince Foster and Ron Brown? Remember the Whitewater investigation? They spent four years and forty million tax dollars to investigate the Clintons’ real estate dealings. And at the end they found the Clintons hadn’t broken any laws. Remember Travelgate? The Clintons were accused of doing something wrong with the White House travel Office. This was only two months into Clinton’s first term. Five years of investigation and the final conclusion was they hadn’t done anything wrong. There’s a pattern here and it’s still going on. Accuse the Clintons of something and keep making accusations. Drag it out for years. No criminal charges will be filed but the public will become convinced they must be guilty of something. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/46 "2015-09-24T17:08:32Z")
I think this is all really a, uh, a false flag operation to cover the fact that she’s going to have to withdraw because the email scandal is about to uncover the REAL truth about Monica’s blowjob. Also, Benghazi. Hey, is Benghazi over? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/47 "2015-09-24T17:49:23Z")
I found Klein’s source. The National Enquirer. You think I’m making that up, right? Wrong. [How Chronic Disease Could End Hillary Clinton’s White House Run](http://www.nationalenquirer.com/real-life/how-chronic-disease-could-end-hillary-clintons-white-house-run) > [@](#): > > With her 2016 presidential campaign in full swing, Hillary Clinton is hiding two shocking health secrets – multiple sclerosis and a series of strokes! > > In a bombshell exclusive, The National ENQUIRER has learned the 67-year-old Democratic front-runner is suffering from the early stages of the debilitating disease MS. > > What’s more, sources said the medical troubles could prevent her from ever making it to the Oval Office! > > “Hillary’s past health problems are down to MS,” a political insider close to her and husband Bill told The ENQUIRER. “She’s been working with her staff to keep the medical drama under wraps, and she’s doing her best to deal with it.” > > But other sources claimed Hillary has suffered three secret strokes, and she’s flat-out lying about her failing health! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/48 "2015-09-24T19:07:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I didn’t say that, only that this is _the kind of_ silly, hateful personal denunciations we so often get from the Sanders camp, including in this forum, btw, are indistinguishable from the kind we started getting from the Republican talking heads for the last twenty years. I’ll add that we can, and need to, do better than that, hmm? > > So is the official Clinton inner circle, and always has been. But the _official_ Sanders _inner_ circle is not the set of people under discussion. Wait! There are members of the Sanders campaign here? Have they identified themselves as such? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/49 "2015-09-24T19:10:43Z")
Camp, not campaign. The distinction is pretty important, as some of us have been trying to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/50 "2015-09-24T20:51:38Z")
Just like the Birther movement started in the Clinton camp but not the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/51 "2015-09-24T23:48:18Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I think you are alone in your read on this comment. . No. I also interpret “camp” as a large unofficial group of supporters, unless it’s during the convention. And, yeah, I’ve heard lots of Sanders supporters insist that Hilary had “too much baggage” to ever win - no real evidence of anything, but just that amorphous undefined “baggage”. But, no, I don’t have any cites, I’m talking about personal conversations. (Frankly, if Brady really supports Trump, he should have come out for Hilary - she’d lose every state but Massachusetts.) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/52 "2015-09-25T00:09:18Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Not really. Only if **Wesley Clark** is actually someone in “the Sanders camp,” instead of just some dude on a message board. “The Sanders camp” indicates an insider, or perhaps a group of organized supporters. I am confused by these arguments. I thought when I posted this OP I was asking a serious question about a candidate. I didn’t think it would be any different than asking about the health issues of Trump, or Carson or Sanders or Biden. Yet many people here are equating this discussion to thinks like the Vince Foster conspiracy. Granted, as I said in the OP, I do not know much about Klein who is making these accusations. However speculating that someone who is almost 70 (which could be any of the candidates, as many are close to 70) may be having health issues that makes it hard to engage in 16-18 hour work days for the next 9 years is not the same thing as saying the Clintons killed Vince Foster. If someone speculated Trump or Sanders had health issues (both are older than Clinton) I would not consider it controversial or a smear tactic. Also Sanders is 75, he is 6 years older than Clinton. Biden is 74 so Clinton is the youngest mainstream democrat running. As I said earlier my main reason for starting this thread is it seems to me that there is suddenly this push out of nowhere to get Biden in the race and I didn’t know if that was because Clinton was having health issues that made her feel like she couldn’t fulfill the role as president. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/53 "2015-09-25T03:18:06Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > Hey, is Benghazi over? It wasn’t going anywhere. So we moved on to e-mails. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/54 "2015-09-25T04:07:43Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I am confused by these arguments. I thought when I posted this OP I was asking a serious question about a candidate. I didn’t think it would be any different than asking about the health issues of Trump, or Carson or Sanders or Biden. Yet many people here are equating this discussion to thinks like the Vince Foster conspiracy. > > Granted, as I said in the OP, I do not know much about Klein who is making these accusations. However speculating that someone who is almost 70 (which could be any of the candidates, as many are close to 70) may be having health issues that makes it hard to engage in 16-18 hour work days for the next 9 years is not the same thing as saying the Clintons killed Vince Foster. If someone speculated Trump or Sanders had health issues (both are older than Clinton) I would not consider it controversial or a smear tactic. > > Also Sanders is 75, he is 6 years older than Clinton. Biden is 74 so Clinton is the youngest mainstream democrat running. As I said earlier my main reason for starting this thread is it seems to me that there is suddenly this push out of nowhere to get Biden in the race and I didn’t know if that was because Clinton was having health issues that made her feel like she couldn’t fulfill the role as president. The most obvious reason Biden is being pushed is to make a more interesting race and/or some people don’t like the heir apparent. To believe from some unknown source that Clinton has had “a series of strokes” is kind of ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/55 "2015-09-25T13:09:05Z")
It’s worth exploring why such stories are so easily believed by some, isn’t it? And why they’re created, and by whom? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/56 "2015-09-25T15:19:47Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I am confused by these arguments. I thought when I posted this OP I was asking a serious question about a candidate. … Yup, [Just Asking Questions](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions). Like the story of LBJ having his operative just asking the question of if his opponent was fucking pigs. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/57 "2015-09-25T20:10:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > IIRC, this is the same guy who claims Hillary Clinton is a lesbian who only had Chelsea because Bill raped her. > > I’d take anything he says about the Clintons with a molecule of NaCl. You are way behind. The latest is that Bill isn’t Chelsea’s dad - it’s [Webb Hubbell](http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/huge-scandal-chelsea-isnt-bill-clintons-daughter/) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/58 "2015-09-25T20:16:49Z")
That’s another old chestnut from the 90’s. Might as well get out your copy of _The Clinton Chronicles_ and get ready for all of it. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/59 "2015-09-25T20:23:07Z")
It would kind of fun to collect all of the various fan-fics into one cohesive narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251/60 "2015-09-25T20:36:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **CarnalK** : > > Just like the Birther movement started in the Clinton camp but not the campaign. You’re not actually under the illusion that PUMA was composed of Clinton supporters, are you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-hillary-be-too-sick-to-run-for-serve-as-president/732251.md?page=4)