# Could it be possible that homosexuals are really athesist **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 5, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225 "2013-06-05T17:35:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/61 "2013-06-05T22:00:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Could I get a list of states that don’t tax sin? High wages of sin don’t count if there are high sin taxes to counter them. I started to ask that, but with a different syntax. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/62 "2013-06-05T22:16:17Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > go ahead give Saint Peter at the golden gate all the reasons why he should let you in [I’m not sure which one of those booths is manned by Saint Peter, but he usually lets me past just on account of I have exact change for the toll.](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1057480/thumbs/o-GOLDEN-GATE-BRIDGE-TOLL-BOOTHS-facebook.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/63 "2013-06-05T22:28:51Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > go ahead give Saint Peter at the golden gate all the reasons why he should let you in Someone is going to have to tell him I can’t go; I owe my soul to the company store. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/64 "2013-06-05T22:39:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Could it be possible that homosexuals are really athesist Surely not!! Why, the merest idea! :eek: _Monocle smash_ ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/65 "2013-06-05T22:41:59Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Therefore are homosexuals really just athesist denying that God the father has tagged sex with another male (among other things they do wrong) as a sin? No. Although I don’t share your views on the inherent sinfulness of homosexual desire and activity, as a fellow Christian, I can assure you that homosexuals are not necessarily atheists. Those homosexuals who share your belief that acting on their desires is sinful (and I’m sure there are some) are not, of course, atheists (since they share your belief). As a Christian, you know that none of us are without sin. Doesn’t make us atheists. You know this. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/66 "2013-06-05T23:06:44Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > go ahead give Saint Peter at the golden gate all the reasons why he should let you in I escaped from San Francisco, that den of sin and iniquity, by confessing to Saint Peter at the Golden Gate, and all I accomplished was . . . . . . entry to Marin County. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/67 "2013-06-05T23:31:03Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Surely not!! Why, the merest idea! :eek: _Monocle smash_ No-monocle shatter. _Hulk_ smash. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/68 "2013-06-06T01:17:44Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > So, yes, there are openly gay ministers in the Presbyterian church. Are they repentent? ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/69 "2013-06-06T01:31:58Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Are they repentent? Nah, they’re resplendent! ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/70 "2013-06-06T02:06:14Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I’m an athesist in that I don’t believe the OP has a thesis. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/71 "2013-06-06T03:14:36Z")
So where is using periods on the list of sins? Is it the 13th Commandment? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/72 "2013-06-06T03:59:21Z")
Thank you, **Doc Cathode**. For the record, OP, I’m a homosexual who IS an atheist and, frankly, I think I live a more virtuous life than about half the Christians I know. I have no use for any concept of “sin” that divides itself into a thousand little pigeonholes…the only concept of “sin” that I recognize is that which defines it as treating another human being as an object instead of a person. Everything else in my morality is derived from that. So I have no use for your god, nor for your “sin”. You can talk about how St. Peter is going to reject me when I die all you want…even if I WERE Christian, I think I’d consider that particular hoary trope to be an insultingly simplistic image of Heaven. Yeah, there’s some old guy with wings and a halo checking off a big book as an endless line of souls files past. There’s some deep theology right there. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/73 "2013-06-06T04:23:14Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you? I dunno dude… sounds pretty gay. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/74 "2013-06-06T04:38:06Z")
Thats the great thing about being “Christian” Everyone just takes Jesus’ failed prophecy and reworks them to fit their personal preferred version of the doomsday cult. Some people tempt the petty, weakling god Yahweh by wearing jeans with a wool jacket and other do so by being loving members of a committed relationship. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/75 "2013-06-06T04:41:31Z")
Once again, we heterosexual atheists are getting passed over. What, no brimstone for us? ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/76 "2013-06-06T04:54:07Z")
Sorry kayaker…you missed the old days when god would send a couple of she bears down to slaughter 40+ children for laughing at a bald guy. Apparently he cared more about bronze age fashion critics than your love life. Maybe he is still mad at Jesus for breaking Deuteronomy 23:2…the bastard wasn’t even suppose to go to church for 10 generations. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/77 "2013-06-06T05:01:56Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Galatians 5:14-16 > For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!. OK, so, petting’s OK but no oral penetration, got it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/78 "2013-06-06T05:04:06Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Doesn’t the bible say the exact same “an abomination” in regards to shellfish, as it does Homosexuality? :o Look, that’s not fair, I thought it was a **female** lobster, OK?! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/79 "2013-06-06T05:14:39Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Further, in keeping with our General Assembly’s guidelines, this community of faith welcomes as members homosexual persons who both seek and have found Christ’s love. “And we invite them to get down on their knees and close their eyes . . .” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225/80 "2013-06-06T05:16:57Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > I get a kick out of some of ya’ll protesting … > > go ahead give Saint Peter at the golden gate all the reasons why he should let you in Well, I’m sure any gay dude can give him one . . . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-it-be-possible-that-homosexuals-are-really-athesist/660225.md?page=5)