# Could "Little Orphan Annie" get published today?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 28, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306 "2005-10-28T13:46:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/21 "2005-10-30T07:57:50Z")

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I don’t buy the theory about the Production Code and women’s portrayals. If anything, I think the opposite was true.

**Top Jobs — Female Leads in American Movies**

1930/1940

Singer/Dancer: 41/31  
Actress: 16/8  
Office Worker/Secretary: 12/6  
Nurse: 2/10  
Journalist: 0/13  
Prostitute/Madam: 1/1  
Hotel/Restaurant/Bar Worker: 8/5  
Student (college): 4/1  
Secret Agent: 4/2  
Teacher (school/college): 1/4  
Hotel/Restaurant/Bar Owner: 3/4  
Model: 3/4  
Farmer/Rancher: 3/6  
Servant: 4/0  
Doctor/Psychiatrist: 0/0  
Shop Assistant: 4/3  
Musician/Songwriter: 2/3  
Policewoman: 0/1  
Scientist: 0/1  
Writer: 1/5  
Lawyer: 1/1  
Artist: 0/0  
Broadcaster: 0/1  
Circus Performer: 1/1  
Missionary/Evanglist/Nun: 1/0  
Air Stewardess: 0/2  
Manufacturer: 1/1

Source: Patrick Robertson, _The Guinness Book of Movie Facts & Feats_, 5th ed., 1993.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/22 "2005-10-30T09:26:17Z")

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> [@Ukulele Ike](#):
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> Hell, I remember _worse_. Littleface Finney was pissed off that one of his henchmen wore a monogrammed vest-pocket to a heist, so he had another thug hold the guys arms while he _set fire to the hankie_…and let it burn away most of the guy’s suitcoat, shirt, and chest.
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> The Brow hooked one Summer Sister up to a timer-linked electrical Iron Maiden. The other twin had to carry out some nefarious errand and be back in time for him to turn off the machine before the spikes gouged into her sister’s leg.
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> And how about Mrs. Pruneface’s Deathtrap? She shackled Tracy to the floor, set up a board with a railway spike across two large blocks of ice, and weighted it down with a refrigerator. Turned the heat way up and left. Dick got to watch the ice melt and the spike descend into his chest. I forget how he got out of that one.

Got a reprint a few years ago:

He got out

[spoiler]by noticing that the wood floor was uneven and so he pounded his back to the floor several times making the floor vibrate to make the blocks of ice move slowly to the left. When Patton finally got to Tracy, he was laying still and it looked like the spike killed Tracy.

But Patton ripped Tracy’s shirt to reveal that Tracy was just unconscious for the effort and the spike got to the floor scratching him, but not seriously.  
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/23 "2005-10-30T09:51:42Z")

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> [@ITR champion](#):
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> The religious right

Cite?

I really dislike this meme I see on the Dope. Plenty of left-wingers are religious. Remember Kerry and Edwards?

And why criticise being **religious**? Surely it was morals, not religion, that was the issue here?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/24 "2005-10-30T17:19:33Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Cite?
> 
> I really dislike this meme I see on the Dope. Plenty of left-wingers are religious. Remember Kerry and Edwards?
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> And why criticise being **religious**? Surely it was morals, not religion, that was the issue here?

So…they would be the religious left. What’s your issue here? If you’re scratching your head trying to figure out why you never hear the term “religious left”, maybe it’s because religious people of the liberal persuasion tend less often to shout down from the pulpit how everyone else should live their lives. They’ve certainly tried less often to legislate morals in _my_ lifetime (DOMA aside.)

And why criticize being **religious**? Well, how many atheistic moral crusaders have YOU ever met?

> [@Exapno Mapcase](#):
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> all of lissener’s claims are wrong.

1. Name 5 popular female American directors.

2. Name 30 popular male American directors.

(Hint: exercize 2 will be easier.)

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/25 "2005-10-30T17:35:23Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> So…they would be the religious left. What’s your issue here?

Because ‘the religious right’ seems to be a meme that’s developing as the new group of bogeymen. And I can’t let it be unchallenged.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/26 "2005-10-30T17:41:05Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> 1. Name 5 popular female American directors.
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> 2. Name 30 popular male American directors.
> 
> (Hint: exercize 2 will be easier.)

1. Name 5 famous female Supreme Court justices.

2. Name 30 famous male Supreme Court justices.

(Hint: exercize [sic] 2 will be easier.)

Singling movies out for misogyny is not much of an argument.

And if \*\*lissener’s \*\* argument meant anything at all you would be able to detail the equality of women in any or all aspects of film before the Code.

It doesn’t and you can’t.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/27 "2005-10-30T17:41:54Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Because ‘the religious right’ seems to be a meme that’s developing as the new group of bogeymen. And I can’t let it be unchallenged.

It’s an old term. You’re really, _really_ late for this bus. Trust me.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/28 "2005-10-30T19:26:06Z")

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> [@Exapno Mapcase](#):
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> Singling movies out for misogyny is not much of an argument.

Neither is an appeal to authority.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/29 "2005-10-31T00:50:49Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Neither is an appeal to authority.

What is the world is this supposed to mean?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-little-orphan-annie-get-published-today/328306/30 "2005-10-31T12:51:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Hell, I remember worse.

Well, I did describe worse – the impalement on a church steeple, the electrocutions – they weren’t described – they were _shown_, in loving detail.

Tracy escaped from the melting-ice-blocks-of-doom, by banhing on the floor enough so that the ice blocks slid slightly downhill (the floor, fortunately, wasn’t level) and the spike narrowly missed Tracy’s chest.

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