# Could/should Andy Serkis/Gollum be nominated for an Oscar?

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**Created:** [January 1, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-should-andy-serkis-gollum-be-nominated-for-an-oscar/146025 "2003-01-01T09:17:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![TVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@TVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVS)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-should-andy-serkis-gollum-be-nominated-for-an-oscar/146025/61 "2003-01-05T02:02:00Z")

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My 2 cents:

Serkis could be nominated. Probably should be too. For anyone who didn’t know, Jon Voight doesn’t actually look like Howard Cosell. He was nominated because of his voice acting and makeup job. Same principal. The effects team should have a separate nomination.

Will he be nominated? Heck, no. The academy is traditionally a little short-sighted. Tron couldn’t be nominated for effects because the FX team cheated and used computers. It took the academy years to recognize computer-based effects ( I believe The Abyss was 7 years later, but don’t quote me).

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-should-andy-serkis-gollum-be-nominated-for-an-oscar/146025/62 "2003-01-05T02:15:40Z")

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Tron came out in 1982.  
The Abyss came out in 1989.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-should-andy-serkis-gollum-be-nominated-for-an-oscar/146025/63 "2003-01-05T02:25:41Z")

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> Talk to Hilary Swank about how much more “popular” she was than Annette Bening and Meryl Streep. I’m sure she would have been surprised to know it before Oscar night.

Among the group of actesses nominated that year, her performance recieved the most votes, making her the most popular in that context.

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> Ask Roberto Benigni how he got to be more “popular” than Nick Nolte, Edward Norton, Ian McKellen and, oh yes, Tom Hanks.

By giving a wonderful performance?

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> We all know that Gwyneth Paltrow is more popular than Meryl Streep, and that Frances McDormand is way more popular than Diane Keaton, but who woulda thunk that Juliette Binoche would be more popular than Lauren Bacall? She must have partied a LOT in LA.

What does that have to do with how well recieved her performance was among the Academy? Her performance was the most popular (generally highly regarded and/or liked) among voting Academy members

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> No, it’s a lot of different people, of a lot of different ages, performing a lot of different occupations within the industry, in a lot of different cities, filling out their ballots one by one and sending them in.

Agreed. And by doing so, they create a popular concensus as to the best performance, picture, etc.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-should-andy-serkis-gollum-be-nominated-for-an-oscar/146025/64 "2003-01-05T02:47:59Z")

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Hell, they’re ALL just pixels on a screen to me. Robert DeNiro in the movies, Meryl Streep in the movies, Gollum in the movies, no difference. Whether the pixels were created by one person or ten, just technical stuff.

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