# Could Testosterone Increase Supplements Deepen Your Voice? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468 "2013-10-17T06:45:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/21 "2013-10-19T04:55:43Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > I do think this tocosorb is helping my hair. I have seen a thickening since I started taking it. I do not want to stop over potential “paranoia.” I am only taking it every other day right now. I just wish someone had some science to make me feel better about taking this. I do not want to deepen my voice but I also want to keep my hair 🙂 I mean does it take a lot of testo to deepen someones voice? Huh? You’ve been answered. a) It probably aint doing shit. b) If it did raise your testosterone it would thin your hair not thicken it; if it is preventing hair loss then if anything it is lowering or blocking testosterone. c) The level that it might raise testosterone if it did raise testosterone would not be significant enough to do anything to your voice. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/22 "2013-10-19T05:06:10Z")
Yup. It is a vitamin E analogue and if vitamin E analogues do anything do testosterone levels they [lower 'em](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1097-0045(200101)46:1%3C33::AID-PROS1005%3E3.0.CO;2-6/abstract). > [@](#): > > long-term α-tocopherol supplementation decreases serum androgen concentrations Would lowering testosterone raise your voice? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/23 "2013-10-19T07:07:51Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > I do think this tocosorb is helping my hair. I have seen a thickening since I started taking it. I do not want to stop over potential “paranoia.” I am only taking it every other day right now. I just wish someone had some science to make me feel better about taking this. I do not want to deepen my voice but I also want to keep my hair 🙂 I mean does it take a lot of testo to deepen someones voice? Since male-patterned baldness is caused, in large part by testostrone, if indeed, your hair is getting thicker, maybe you’re taking estrogen? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/24 "2013-10-19T10:05:28Z")
Guys but taking Testo can actually be good for the hair in some cases. This could still be raising testo levels. I do not see anything that claims vitiman E lowers testo. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/25 "2013-10-19T11:41:07Z")
Hence the Telemark post. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/26 "2013-10-19T11:54:15Z")
I can lower my voice pretty dramatically by scowling and hunching my shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/27 "2013-10-19T12:45:13Z")
Just out of curiosity, **ineedthetruth** which word is it that do not know? That tocopherol is Vitamin E, or that testosterone is an androgen? Or do you just not comprehend things that are the words youwanttoknow? Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/28 "2013-10-19T19:02:25Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Just out of curiosity, **ineedthetruth** which word is it that do not know? That tocopherol is Vitamin E, or that testosterone is an androgen? Or do you just not comprehend things that are the words youwanttoknow? > > Good luck. This kinda makes sense. But tocopherols and tocotrienols raise testosterone levels. So I am not sure what you are saying? If these raise testo levels then I am dealing and androgens. Androgens can deepen voice right? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/29 "2013-10-19T19:08:25Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > So I am not sure what you are saying? I believe he’s saying that you seem refractory to explanations. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/30 "2013-10-19T19:16:58Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > This kinda makes sense. But tocopherols and tocotrienols raise testosterone levels. So I am not sure what you are saying? If these raise testo levels then I am dealing and androgens. Androgens can deepen voice right? > [@](#): > > But tocopherols and tocotrienols raise testosterone levels. So I am not sure what you are saying? He’s saying that tocopherols **do not** raise testosterone levels. Are you reading the responses given to you here?? > [@](#): > > If these raise testo levels then I am dealing and androgens. They don’t, and you’re not. > [@](#): > > Androgens can deepen voice right? Again, are you reading this thread? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/31 "2013-10-19T20:24:41Z")
Maybe he’s a bot. Or a writer for one of the Onion’s "Ask the … " bits. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/32 "2013-10-19T22:01:46Z")
but its proven that tocosorb and toco 8 raise testo levels. How can you say that this does not raise testo levels when there is proof for this. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/33 "2013-10-19T22:05:58Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > but its proven that tocosorb and toco 8 raise testo levels. How can you say that this does not raise testo levels when there is proof for this. Where is this proof of which you speak? I’ve seen none here in this thread. Or anywhere else, ever, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/34 "2013-10-19T22:23:14Z")
Ok well how about this? Tocosorb blocks estrogen receptors which in turn can deepen ones voice? > **[Tocotrienols inhibit the growth of human breast cancer cells irrespective of...](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9625593/)** > > Potential antiproliferative effects of tocotrienols, the major vitamin E component in palm oil, were investigated on the growth of both estrogen-responsive (ER+) MCF7 human breast cancer cells and estrogen-unresponsive (ER-) MDA-MB-231 human breast... With the rise in testo and blocking of estrogen receptors I think this could deepen my voice. I think if I only take it 1-2 times per week I might be ok? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/35 "2013-10-19T22:38:58Z")
What the article you cited says: > [@](#): > > tocotrienols do not act via an estrogen receptor-mediated pathway Note the “NOT” in there. I am not sure there is any frequency you could take or not take anything and be okay. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/36 "2013-10-19T23:43:56Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > What the article you cited says:Note the “NOT” in there. > I am not sure there is any frequency you could take or not take anything and be okay. what do you mean about the frequency? I think the less I take it the less the effect on me. No but google it…tocos do block estrogen receptors. That’s what I am trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/37 "2013-10-19T23:45:58Z")
There is no smiley option that suffices. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/38 "2013-10-20T00:38:21Z")
Turing test fail. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/39 "2013-10-20T00:49:42Z")
what are you guys talking about? My concern is valid. This is science. I have all of these facts to back it up. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/40 "2013-10-20T00:51:44Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Turing test fail. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468.md?page=3)