# Could Testosterone Increase Supplements Deepen Your Voice? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468 "2013-10-17T06:45:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/41 "2013-10-20T01:11:36Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > what are you guys talking about? My concern is valid. This is science. I have all of these facts to back it up. I think it is due to the supplements - they are effecting your reading comprehension - see eg… > **[Benefits of hormone replacement therapy in postmenopausal women - PubMed](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18042129/)** > > HRT has been a benefit to many women in the treatment of postmenopausal symptoms. Recent studies have shown that HRT, whether it is combined estrogen and progestin therapy, or estrogen-only therapy, can help postmenopausal women with osteoporosis and... You can’t just post links to a study that doesn’t say what you say it does and expect people to take you seriously. I think you might want to go off the supplements for a while. > **[\[Interference of vitamin E on the brain tissue damage by electromagnetic...](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24024380/)** > > Under the experimental dosage, vitamin E has certain interference on damage of antioxidant capacity and energy metabolization induced by electromagnetic radiation of cell phone in pregnant rats and fetal rats. But seriously - worse case scenario - assuming there is no other bad stuff happening - if you notice your voice staring to change - stop taking it! It isn’t like this happens over night. Sort of like women worried about working out making them look too muscular - well if it does - stop! ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/42 "2013-10-20T01:56:02Z")
You may _need_ the truth but I dare say, good sir, you can’t _handle_ the truth. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/43 "2013-10-20T06:16:48Z")
Thanks guys but I feel a deepening voice can be subtle and hard to detect until the change is great. I mean could this really have this effect…just a testo increase and estrogen receptor blockage? ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/44 "2013-10-20T09:01:51Z")
> [@ineedthetruth](#): > > Ok well how about this? Tocosorb blocks estrogen receptors which in turn can deepen ones voice? > > [Tocotrienols inhibit the growth of human breast cancer cells irrespective of estrogen receptor status - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625593) > > With the rise in testo and blocking of estrogen receptors I think this could deepen my voice. I think if I only take it 1-2 times per week I might be ok? Testostrone isn’t anti-estrogen. They are different compounds. Women have some testostrone and men have some estrogen. They don’t cancel each other. The article you linked to says nothing about testostrone. The article is about breast cancer therapy. It’s explaining that the tocotrienol compound inhibited the growth of both types of breast cancer cells, ones with estrogen and ones without. NO testostrone at all. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/45 "2013-10-20T13:54:24Z")
**picci** , just check out the OP’s previous threads. You’ll discover that logic and reason are not effective tools there either. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/46 "2013-10-20T16:05:17Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > **picci** , just check out the OP’s previous threads. You’ll discover that logic and reason are not effective tools there either. Yeah, this is following the same routine as his previous thread. -The OP latches onto a pseudo-medical concept that has no scientific support. - People post the data that shows his concept is wrong. - He claims to have evidence that supports his position but fails to post any or posts things that don’t say what he claims they say. - He then restates his original question in a slightly reworded format. - Go to Step 1. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/47 "2013-10-20T16:37:20Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Turing test fail. 😃 Instant classic! My hat is off to you, sir! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/48 "2013-10-20T16:52:45Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > 😃 > Instant classic! My hat is off to you, sir! Thanks, but it’s not original. Even if apropos to the situation. And I must also admit a lot of my patients don’t pass the Turing Test either. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/49 "2013-10-20T19:49:22Z")
Heres some proof. What about this. > **[Important developments in the field of modified tocopherols/tocotrienols](http://ej-endocrinology.org/important-developments-in-the-field-of-modified-tocopherolstocotrienols.html)** > > Joomla! - the dynamic portal engine and content management system ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/50 "2013-10-21T00:47:02Z")
Better. Unfortunately what that seems to be is part of a scam. A pretty impressive one though I must say. That link purports to be a citation from The European Journal of Endocrinology, from June 2012. A real journal. Which actually published [this](http://www.eje-online.org/content/166/6.toc) in June 2012. Something completely different. The real European Journal of Endocrinology’s address is [http://www.eje-online.org/](http://www.eje-online.org/) … this fake one is [http://ej-endocrinology.org/](http://ej-endocrinology.org/) The difference? Articles published in the real one can be found in a literature search engine like google scholar and PubMed. Moderately significant effort on my part cannot make those alleged abstracts in the fake one come up in either engine. They do not exist. Oh, there are other clues, like in a real journal you can see the current months table of contents as opposed to every page featuring a cover from June 2012. This company has completely faked that page as a faux journal that is a sound-alike for a real one exclusively to scam people with. Impressive. Scary, but impressive. **ineedthetruth** , where did you get the link to that page? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468/51 "2013-10-21T01:30:39Z")
I think enough factual information has been presented here to answer the OP’s questions adequately. I’m going to close this. **ineedthetruth** is instructed not to open another thread on this or a similar subject. Colibri General Questions Moderator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-testosterone-increase-supplements-deepen-your-voice/671468.md?page=2)