# Could the right makeup make this young woman more attractive or not?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 10, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014 "2015-12-10T00:51:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
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I’ve never seen _anybody_ who wouldn’t look a little better with some modicum of makeup. Gender excluded. Men should wear makeup and pluck those shitty eyebrows, too.

So sure, the girl in the OP may look “better” with a little makeup. So would the OP. So would I.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/22 "2015-12-10T01:51:00Z")

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Huh? She’s a pretty young lady.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/23 "2015-12-10T02:02:16Z")

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Her boobiez r 2 small but i’d do her. From da back yo!

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/24 "2015-12-10T02:02:26Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Well, we did do this thread:
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> [This guy’s face creeps me the hell out](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=637583)

Well, that’s one, thanks. How many more do we need to be even, gender-wise? Dozens? Hundreds?

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Is it better or worse that folks mock John Boehner for his orange complexion _without_ suggesting that he should maybe apply a light foundation of pancake makeup?

I do recall his health coming up in regards that, though of course for some folks, making sport of Boehner is, well … just that. Seems better just to cut to the chase in that case, imo.

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**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/25 "2015-12-10T02:34:52Z")

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The best thing she could do for herself would be to smile. No one looks pretty with a sour look on their face. Granted, she wasn’t in a smiling situation when that pic was taken, but if someone took a shot of her when she was relaxing with friends and smiling, she’d be a different girl.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/26 "2015-12-10T02:52:57Z")

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Am I really the only one who thinks she looks 12 years old??

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/27 "2015-12-10T02:56:08Z")

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We’re used to seeing photographs of women with full makeup, whitened teeth, and tightly plucked brows. She has none of these things. Her appearance wouldn’t be sparking comment if she did.

She \*does \*do her hair, hip hip hooray.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/28 "2015-12-10T03:08:13Z")

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Strictly speaking, the “right makeup artist” could make her look like [some kind of a lobster-like creature,](http://www.themakeupgallery.info/fantasy/index.htm) if you wanted.

And the lady in question looks perfectly—bafflingly, even—_fine_, to me. I mean, standards and opinions of “attractiveness” can vary, of course, but this doesn’t exactly seem like a case for a major engineering brainstorming session, here.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/29 "2015-12-10T04:47:04Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Is this some trick of the light or fixable by makeup?

Since there is nothing functional wrong or grossly disfigured about her face I question the use of “fixable”. There’s nothing there that’s broken.

That said, use of a little make up would make her more conventionally pretty. Mostly I think what’s throwing you off is that she is not made-up at all. We’re used to seeing that with men, not women, which might be why she comes off as “mannish” to **running coach**.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/30 "2015-12-10T05:15:06Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Since there is nothing functional wrong or grossly disfigured about her face I question the use of “fixable”. There’s nothing there that’s broken.
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> That said, use of a little make up would make her more conventionally pretty. Mostly I think what’s throwing you off is that she is not made-up at all. We’re used to seeing that with men, not women, which might be why she comes off as “mannish” to **running coach**.

That’s why I was questioning myself in my OP. There was nothing conventionally out of place with any element. She has a bit of a [moon face](https://www.google.com/search?q=moon+face&rlz=1T4GUEA_enUS594US594&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQpdSfxNDJAhUFRSYKHXA0CukQ_AUIBygB&biw=1120&bih=518#tbm=isch&q=moon+face+before+and+after) but nothing wildly out of the ordinary. Possibly is it just perception and expectation as you and others indicate.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/31 "2015-12-10T05:53:33Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> I honestly cannot recall ever seeing a thread like this with a man as its target (‘hey, look at this guy, how could he improve his appearance? Let’s discuss!’). The closest I can get to that is threads in Café Society about a male celebrity whose appearance has suddenly taken a nosedive and people are speculating about his health/possible substance abuse. No one’s offering makeup tips there.

I’m not gonna search for it but I’ll guess there are plenty of threads on Micheal Jackson’s appearance.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/32 "2015-12-10T11:11:58Z")

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Folks on the SDMB have opined that George W. Bush looks like a chimp.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/33 "2015-12-10T11:29:49Z")

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Trump is also mocked for his opinions, of course.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/34 "2015-12-10T12:01:44Z")

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Posters hereabouts have also criticized Ted Cruz’s looks.

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/35 "2015-12-10T12:29:48Z")

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She looks quite nice when she smiles, IMO. If she did something with her hair as well she’d be quite pretty.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/36 "2015-12-10T12:34:06Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Posters hereabouts have also criticized Ted Cruz’s looks.

Cruz is a two-fer. He could be radio’s first mime.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/37 "2015-12-10T12:49:45Z")

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She’d be much more good-looking if she were black.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/38 "2015-12-10T12:51:46Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Posters hereabouts have also criticized Ted Cruz’s looks.

As long as you’re revisiting the SDMB conservative slam book, one of us probably said Strom Thurmond looked old, too.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/39 "2015-12-10T12:57:33Z")

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And various folks have said that Mitch McConnell looks like a turtle.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-the-right-makeup-make-this-young-woman-more-attractive-or-not/740014/40 "2015-12-10T13:12:05Z")

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I think the difference is that nobody is saying “Oh no, George Bush is not attractive! What does he need to do to become attractive to me?!?!”

The problem is not saying a particular women is unattractive, it’s the idea that this is somehow a problem that needs to be fixed.

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