# Could this be the end of Bill O'Reilly (please please please)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150 "2004-10-14T03:34:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/1 "2004-10-14T03:34:07Z")

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[Producer alleges Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly forced her into phone sex](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/10/13/entertainment1826EDT0696.DTL)

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> Fox News Channel traded accusations Wednesday with one of the producers of Bill O’Reilly’s show, with the woman alleging that the commentator had phone sex with her against her wishes three times. Fox in a claim of its own dismissed the sexual harassment complaint as a politically motivated extortion attempt.
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> The woman, Andrea Mackris, is an associate producer on “The O’Reilly Factor,” a job she returned to in July after a short stint at CNN.
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> During a phone conversation this August, Mackris, 33, said O’Reilly suggested she buy a vibrator and was clearly excited. Before hanging up, she said, O’Reilly told her: “I appreciate the fun phone call.”
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> She contended he made a similar call Sept. 21, ending that one by saying: “Next time you’ll come up to my hotel room and we’ll make this happen.”
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> In his claim against Mackris and her attorney, Benedict Morelli, O’Reilly said Morelli demanded $60 million in “hush money” to not file the lawsuit.

Could this be the end of this crappy demagogue? I sure hope she has a blue dress of proof.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/2 "2004-10-14T03:37:58Z")

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I hope so, but O-lie-ly and Fox will turn this around on the victim and demonize her so much that nothing will come of it.

I’m sure he’s guilty, though.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/3 "2004-10-14T03:39:52Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> I’m sure he’s guilty, though.

Of course you are. Who needs ‘proof’ when you have that gut-feeling?

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/4 "2004-10-14T03:42:53Z")

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Gut feelings worked for Bush.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/5 "2004-10-14T03:44:49Z")

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How do you force someone to have phone sex?

If you’re uncomfortable, you just hang up, right? And if you’re afraid for your job or something, and he’s wanted to be all hot and sweaty on the phone before, you tape your calls to him. Then, you have the leverage to refuse and have his nuts in a sling at the same time.

This sounds…weird.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/6 "2004-10-14T03:48:46Z")

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Not only that, it sounds true.

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**Author:** ![mks57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@mks57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mks57)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/7 "2004-10-14T03:49:18Z")

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> …with the woman alleging that the commentator had phone sex with her against her wishes three times.

What a coincidence. Just last week, some evil person called me on the telephone three times and made me sing the Klatchian national anthem, backwards.

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**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/8 "2004-10-14T03:54:10Z")

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> O’Reilly told her: “I appreciate the fun phone call.”

And he’s out there walking around.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/9 "2004-10-14T03:54:33Z")

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It’s not unusual for a man in a position of power to manipulate women into doing things they don’t want to do.

Let’s not blame the victim here.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/10 "2004-10-14T03:56:22Z")

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Originally posted by Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handy:

\*A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. “Hear that?” you say. “That’s dynamite, baby.”  
\*

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/11 "2004-10-14T03:59:33Z")

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> [@mks57](#):
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> What a coincidence. Just last week, some evil person called me on the telephone three times and made me sing the Klatchian national anthem, backwards.

Ouch. Rough. Similar ting happened to me, but I had it easier. I just had to sing:

dlog, dlog, dloG  
dlog, dlog, dlog, dloG  
dlog, dlog, dloG  
dlog, dlog, dlog, dloG

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/12 "2004-10-14T04:01:17Z")

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Ha ha ha! Isn’t sexual harassment funny?

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/13 "2004-10-14T04:03:00Z")

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Who knows if it is true. I am not convinced that it must be true, because I know jack shit about O’Reilly’s personal life or quirks, and I know jack shit about his accuser.

On one hand, O’Reilly would seem to be too savvy to do something so stupid. On the other hand, sometimes when a guy gets a little popularity and some attention, he can be really stupid and arrogant, and pull shit like this. On the other hand, the accuser could have a motivation to try to make trouble for him (money, attention). On the other hand, why put yourself through that? Why make something like that up?

See? It’s too soon to know for sure. I don’t think that O’Reilly is past doing something this sleazy, but I am not by any means _convinced_ that he must be guilty, based on someone’s sole accusation.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/14 "2004-10-14T04:04:33Z")

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While my initial reaction to the actual accusation is fairly skeptical, I gotta wonder about this:

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> Besides the attempt for money, O’Reilly charged that his accuser and her lawyer were trying to embarrass him and Fox News Channel three weeks before the election. Morelli, he said, is a contributor to the Democratic Party.

Trying to embarrass O’Reilly _before the election?_ I hadn’t noticed his name on the ticket. What the hell?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/15 "2004-10-14T04:07:06Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Ha ha ha! Isn’t sexual harassment funny?

In this post-Linda Tripp world, I find it impossible to believe that a woman who works as a producer for the media would not get documentary evidence in the form of a tape recording. If this happened once - sure. But she alleges multiple instances. Sorry. Not buying it.

Any more than I’d buy it if the accused was John Kerry or Al Franken or Dan Rather.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/16 "2004-10-14T04:13:15Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Ha ha ha! Isn’t sexual harassment funny?

Almost as hilarious as being innocent until proven guilty! :ROFLORIDA:

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/17 "2004-10-14T04:14:00Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> In this post-Linda Tripp world, I find it impossible to believe that a woman who works as a producer for the media would not get documentary evidence in the form of a tape recording. If this happened once - sure. But she alleges multiple instances. Sorry. Not buying it.

O’Reilly’s lawyer isn’t so sure. From the same cited story:

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> O’Reilly’s lawyer, Ronald Green, said he believes there are tapes of conversations between the two and asked a court to compel Mackris to produce them so they could be played publicly.

This makes little sense to me, however. If Green thinks the tapes will exonerate his client, why does he think Mackris would have taped the conversations?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/18 "2004-10-14T04:14:12Z")

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She’s a Demmie? And there are no recordings or any other evidence, other than her Kool-Aid quaffing good word? Well that pretty much settles that.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/19 "2004-10-14T04:15:41Z")

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[The Smoking Gun has copies of the complaint up](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html)  
The accusations don’t really start until page 6, but some of them are pretty funny. How does one have sex with a Falafel?

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/20 "2004-10-14T04:17:12Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> How does one have sex with a Falafel?

Some things really are better left unexamined…

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