# Could this be the end of Bill O'Reilly (please please please) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150 "2004-10-14T03:34:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/61 "2004-10-14T05:26:09Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > So, as a non-judgemental, all-inclusive type of liberal, what exactly does a skank whore look like? [Like this](http://untruenews.com/more_images/paula_jones.jpg). šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/62 "2004-10-14T05:30:58Z")
Actually, I was much more interested in the first part of your post, **Diogenes** , where you said ā€œItā€™s not unusual for a man in a position of power to manipulate women into doing things they donā€™t want to do.ā€ I believe thatā€™s true to a point. And I find it curious that you have been very forgiving of this flaw in President Clintonā€™s character. Even if you believe that his pursuits were all willing to be pursued, it is still an abuse of his power to do the chasing. And yet, you seem to believe the worst about Bill Oā€™Reilly, right off the bat. What reason is there for this, besides rank partisanship? Your convoluted explanations about Oā€™Reilly being the type to do this donā€™t hold up well. We all know many people who put on a good show for the public, but act poorly in private. Iā€™ve seen you rail against these sort of people often. Why should I believe your sincerity when you do so again? ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/63 "2004-10-14T05:33:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > If she testifies, ā€œBill told me, ā€˜Hey, baby, I have a nine-inch shlong!ā€™ā€ then thatā€™s not hearsay. Itā€™s not admitted to show that Bill is well-endowed ā€“ if it were, then it WOULD be hearsay. I shudder to think what the ā€œbest evidenceā€ rule would demand in that instance. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/64 "2004-10-14T05:37:31Z")
> [@Early Out](#): > > I shudder to think what the ā€œbest evidenceā€ rule would demand in that instance. I imagine it wouldnā€™t involve testimony from Hillary šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/65 "2004-10-14T05:39:19Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > Actually, I was much more interested in the first part of your post, **Diogenes** , where you said ā€œItā€™s not unusual for a man in a position of power to manipulate women into doing things they donā€™t want to do.ā€ > > I believe thatā€™s true to a point. And I find it curious that you have been very forgiving of this flaw in President Clintonā€™s character. Even if you believe that his pursuits were all willing to be pursued, it is still an abuse of his power to do the chasing. Only one woman brought BC to court and the judge herself said that PJ had not been harrassed even if she was telling the truth. Women who make accusations in front of cameras but wonā€™t go to court do not deserve to have their accusations considered at all. And all of the women that BC is more or less known to have knocked boots with all say that it was consensual and that he never tried to manipulate or force them. Harrassment does not match his known pattern. Just because a guy likes pussy doesnā€™t mean heā€™s a rapist. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/66 "2004-10-14T05:42:17Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I imagine it wouldnā€™t involve testimony from Hillary šŸ˜‰ Missed the point entirely. Iā€™m stunned, stunned, I tell yaā€™. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/67 "2004-10-14T05:45:42Z")
**DtC** is just being the _ **partisan asshole** _ that he is. Heā€™s incapable of having a rationaly discussion about anything remotely related to someone he thinks is a Republican and/or a Bush supporter. He knows it. I hope heā€™s at least getting a good laugh out of his goading in this thread. **DtC** : As much as I respect your opinion on scientific and historical matters, you have absolutely ZERO credibility in anything related to politics. Sad. Truely sad. ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/68 "2004-10-14T05:46:47Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > In this post-Linda Tripp world, I find it impossible to believe that a woman who works as a producer for the media would not get documentary evidence in the form of a tape recording. Maybe she did get it recorded. The conversations she listed in her complaint are pretty detailed and long. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/69 "2004-10-14T05:51:46Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > **DtC** is just being the _ **partisan asshole** _ that he isā€¦ Whoa! **PotKettleBlack** alert! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/70 "2004-10-14T05:51:58Z")
> [@Early Out](#): > > Missed the point entirely. Iā€™m stunned, stunned, I tell yaā€™. As well as you missed the point. Truce on this part? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/71 "2004-10-14T05:54:14Z")
Just because Iā€™m a partisan asshole doesnā€™t mean Iā€™m wrong. Letā€™s wait for the tapes. If Iā€™m wrong, Iā€™ll apologize. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/72 "2004-10-14T05:55:22Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Whoa! **PotKettleBlack** alert! **DtC** is a partisan asshole, but at least heā€™s an intelligent partisan asshole. Youā€™re just an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/73 "2004-10-14T05:55:31Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > **DtC** : As much as I respect your opinion on scientific and historical matters, you have absolutely ZERO credibility in anything related to politics. Sad. Truely sad. ā˜¹ Please donā€™t hold **John Mace** responsible for me agreeing with him, but I have to second the history/political opinion said of **DtC** ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/74 "2004-10-14T05:55:35Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > **DtC** : As much as I respect your opinion on scientific and historical matters, you have absolutely ZERO credibility in anything related to politics. **DtC** , Take it from me, you _are_ a knee jerker. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/75 "2004-10-14T06:06:12Z")
> [@SimonX](#): > > Maybe she did get it recorded. > > The conversations she listed in her complaint are pretty detailed and long. maybe, but Iā€™ll still wait til thereā€™s evidence of tapes Some folks (I"m one) can recall pretty clearly conversations after the fact (depending on situation). But again, if your boss does this once, itā€™d be pretty stupid to not tape subsequent conversations. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/76 "2004-10-14T06:12:15Z")
> [@wring](#): > > maybe, but Iā€™ll still wait til thereā€™s evidence of tapes Some folks (I"m one) can recall pretty clearly conversations after the fact (depending on situation). But again, if your boss does this once, itā€™d be pretty stupid to not tape subsequent conversations. Well, after the second time anyway. If you decide that the first timeā€™s a fluuke, you wonā€™t get the recording equipment ready. But after the second time you could have the mic prepped. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/77 "2004-10-14T06:18:35Z")
Some of those converstations are extremely deatiled and theyā€™re not characterized as being being paraphrases. They look like transcriptions. I bet this woman does have tapes. Oā€™Reilly constant rants and threats against people who cross him sound pretty believable too. To steal a line from **'lucy** , Dear Universe, I know I havenā€™t been a good pantheist, but please, please, please let there be tapes. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/78 "2004-10-14T06:55:12Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Some of those converstations are extremely deatiled and theyā€™re not characterized as being being paraphrases. They look like transcriptions. > > I bet this woman does have tapes. > > Oā€™Reilly constant rants and threats against people who cross him sound pretty believable too. > > To steal a line from **'lucy** , Dear Universe, I know I havenā€™t been a good pantheist, but please, please, please let there be tapes. **Diogenes** , come on. Have you heard Oā€™Reillyā€™s radio show? Have you seen his hour TV show? Over the last 4 years? He hits Bush as hard as he does Sharpton, Coulter, Rangle, _et al_. His interview with Bush was what journalism is supposed to be. He threw out some questions and Bush spent an hour and a half to answer everything. They were hardly softball questions. The reason some thought it was soft was most are so used to softballs lobbed by Charlie Gibson and his ilk towards Kerry that anything Bush says is portrayed as wrong. Do I really need to bring up the ABC memo? Nah, CBS already proved a liberal bias. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/79 "2004-10-14T12:16:48Z")
> [@SimonX](#): > > **DtC** , Take it from me, you _are_ a knee jerker. Yes. **Diogenes** sure stands alone as a partisan. Especially among the crowd taking part in this discussion. Most of the responses here could have been predicted if all you saw was the name on the left hand side of the screen (and I donā€™t exclude myself). Except for **duffer**. I mean, sure you know heā€™s going to be a right wing partisan asshole (to borrow a phrase from **Centrist John Mace** , but itā€™s just gonna be so crazy that there is no way to predict it. If I were of a different political persuasion, I might feel compelled to liken **Diogenes** to a liberal Errol Flynn, buckling swashes against an onslaught of conservative pirate dogs (10 against 1!). But I am not. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150/80 "2004-10-14T12:22:13Z")
> [@Hentor](#): > > Most of the responses here could have been predicted if all you saw was the name on the left hand side of the screen (and I donā€™t exclude myself). Why not just let peaceful honest people pursue their own happiness in their own way? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-this-be-the-end-of-bill-oreilly-please-please-please/269150.md?page=5)